1917. V. CHR. Schilling G98

[Kyle4222]

Hello,

I recently picked up this G98. I was wondering if someone could tell me its approximate value? I plan on selling or trading it for a pre 1940 dated k98 (can be a Russian capture just has to have correct hardwood stock) at some point Just want second opinions. I know it’s one of the more harder to find Suhl rifles. It’s mostly matching. Only thing that doesn’t match is the bayonet lug and stock. I believe the stock to be a replacement which has a matching bayonet lug to its self. Has a damaged/repaired section below the bolt. But other than that everything matches down to the screws. Bore is super strong though dark. Has no import marks. I believe this came out of an old collection as it still has a fair amount of cosmoline on it. Needs a good cleaning which I plan on doing later this weekend. I would appreciate the help. Pictures are below.

 

[biggymu]

It looks like a restoration. The serial on the butt plate matches the barreled receiver, so the original stock must have been around when the stock was swapped. The wrench marks on the barrel shank are something we see quite a bit. Please show the damage below the bolt you have described. The sling is a reproduction.
Have you had it apart to see what the internal stock numbers look like? The handguard might still match.

 

[Gew 98]

To add on what biggymu stated, take some pictures of the cartouches on the right side of the stock and the underside of the pistol grip. The stock looks like it may have been sanded which will knock down value. But it does looks like it could be a good shooter! I have a 1917 Schilling as well, my first milsurp I owned.

 

[Kyle4222]

I have taken it apart. The hand guard does match the rifle. I’ll get better pictures in natural light once I clean the rifle.

It looks like a restoration. The serial on the butt plate matches the barreled receiver, so the original stock must have been around when the stock was swapped. The wrench marks on the barrel shank are something we see quite a bit. Please show the damage below the bolt you have described. The sling is a reproduction.
Have you had it apart to see what the internal stock numbers look like? The handguard might still match.

 

[Kyle4222]

To add on what biggymu stated, take some pictures of the cartouches on the right side of the stock and the underside of the pistol grip. The stock looks like it may have been sanded which will knock down value. But it does looks like it could be a good shooter! I have a 1917 Schilling as well, my first milsurp I owned.

I will get pictures. The cartouches are crisp. However it does seem someone put some sort of varnish on the stock it’s self. Doesn’t show any signs of being sanded though.

 

[chrisftk]

The others have the right of it, I'll just add that this was almost certainly a "failed sporter" , meaning that someone tried to turn it into a hunting rifle, but never finished. My guess is that they cut the stock, then tried to remove the barrel to replace it with one in a popular hunting caliber, but they weren't able to remove it with the tools they had and gave up. I have a couple guns that are matching but have "idiot marks" on the barrel. Someone bought it, found a stock and restored it. It's a nice restoration, but a stock m/m hits the value pretty considerably. This would probably be a $2300ish rifle if unmolested, but with the m/m stock, it's probably worth about $900-$1,000 or so depending how nice the replacement stock is.