GarrettC
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Hey guys some people said these could be blood stains so I thought I would post more pictures of it
1914 Amburg blood stains?
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GarrettC
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True, I wonder if there is any for sure way to know
pzjgr
EOD - bombs and bullets
Someone here may know a way, I am sure there is, swab a sample, use the stuff they use in crime scene investigation, luminol(?), I'd be interested in seeing some other guys takes on this too...
Could be wood stain that got spilled on it, I suppose...but interesting in any case.
Could be wood stain that got spilled on it, I suppose...but interesting in any case.
Cyrano4747
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Eh, I'm always a touch skeptical just because it's something that appeals to a certain type of collector and it's an easy way to justify discoloration / finish damage in a way that hopefully doesn't detract as much from the value. I'm pretty jaded just from all the auctions I've seen proudly proclaiming L@@K BLOOD PITTING!!!!!
Obviously it's a thing. As you said blood is an occupational risk for combat arms. But it's something I don't take at face value any more
Cyrano4747
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Also it looks like your album isn't loading. Something about another site having embedded it and imgur not allowing my browser to load it.
biggymu
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Of course you’re correct. It could be anything. Without testing, who will ever know. Could be simple explosives fecal incontinence from malnourishment. A soldier could have been sitting on the buttstock while trying to prairie dog one.
Jim-Bridger
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won’t it glow under a UV light?
Warrior1354
ax - hole
Out of all the items I have seen with possible blood pitting stains. This is the only example I have seen with evidence.
www.k98kforum.com
M.40 KIA helmet, bloodstain testing
I picked this helmet up on a trade. It came from a fellow who is a teacher and was given it by the family of one of his students. The helmet was found among the possessions of the student's uncle, who passed away, and who was the WW2 vet who brought it back. The fellow I got it from eventually...
www.k98kforum.com
Aaron
Senior Member
Blood stain is as much a anecdotal sales pitch as "Vet Bringback", "Captured from a Dead SS Colonel", "Grey Ghost", and "Black Widow". Odds are literally anything but blood stained these items that are stored 100+ years after a war. Its safe to assume that 99.99% of "blood stains" are anything but, the only way to verify such a claim would be in a lab or some sort of test strips, like in the link above.
GarrettC
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Would 100yr old blood even work on a test?
pzjgr
EOD - bombs and bullets
I'll disagree with this...I don't think its much of a sales pitch, don't know many guys out there specifically looking for blood stained items, kind of gruesome. If anything it may suppress sales. And I think the 99.99% number is a stretch...maybe 75%-85% I could agree with, I am sure there are lots of stain, oil, garage gunk spills out there, yes...
But the fact is these were implements of war, and many many guys on both sides died horribly, maimed and torn up by bullets and shell fragments, and bled out on the accoutrements...For sure there were some guys in search of shall we say, gorier war trophies...such as Japanese skulls, teeth, etc, I could see guys grabbing blood stained items and shipping them home for the oooh factor...the sensibilities were different then...
I do agree the only way to really determine it would be through scientific testing...blood, even old dried out blood should be relatively easy to identify.
Just pointing, IMHO, that blood staining, while not as widespread as some might portray, it is out there, and serves as another reminder of the use and loss of these things we collect.
Cyrano4747
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In my experience blood stains / blood pitting absolutely are a selling point for a certain type of buyer. I agree it's creepy, but you find them if you hang out a gun shows and the militaria crowd. Same with helmets with bullet/splinter damage, stained/holed uniforms, etc. I've even seen people up-selling Soldbucher with suspicious stains on them. It's one part people attracted specifically to the gruesome nature, one part the ultimate test of authenticity (in some people's minds). There's a Chinese Mosin on GB right now for just shy of $1,000 advertising supposed blood stains on it as evidence that it's a Vietnam bringback.
