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1909 DWM Gewehr 98 #4610

chrisftk

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Hi All,

This was one I really liked in Mike's collection, but I bought other rifles and Jory ended up with it originally. After giving it an excellent home for the last year or so, he reached out one day and offered it to me knowing that I was a fan of it.

It arrived last week and thought it was worth a fresh photo spread, as Mikes photos were good, but the post is about 10 years old now.

The rifle is factory matching and came outfitted with a beautiful 1st pattern sling and a correct pre-war nickel plated lid. The wood is immaculate except for a repaired crack in the handguard and some possible band slippage damage on the forend. (This was a documented problem that eventually culminated with the redesign of the rear band during the interwar period.) The only other knock is that an older collector cleaned the metal at one point. It's beginning to re-age naturally, but the cleaning still stands out a bit. Given that it's a factory 1909 though, it's a minor quibble. I'm still very happy to be the caretaker of this one.

Here's the data:

Receiver 4610
Barrel 4610 (Bi 7419)
Front Sight 10
Rear Sight Leaf: 10
Sight Slider 10
Sight Buttons: 10, 10
Ejector Box 10
Trigger Sear 10
Front Barrel Band 10
Rear Barrel Band 10
Trigger Guard 4610
Trigger Guard Screws 10,10
Floor Plate 10
Follower 10
Stock 4610
Handguard 4610
Buttplate 4610 (a)
Bayonet Lug 10
Cleaning Rod: 10
Bolt body: 4610
Safety: 10
Cocking Piece: 10
Bolt shroud: 10
Firing Pin: 10
Extractor 10

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Thats a handsome rifle, the stock looks beautiful. The metal looks pretty good to me. I’ve had a few Gew 98 parts that were very heavily rusted (not patina). Recoil lug, barrel bands, trigger guard, ect. After cleaning with bronze brushes and oil they look identical to yours. Somewhat “polished”.

I actually told myself something similar:

They will re-age nicely, better than active rust.

Thanks for sharing.
 
Another righteous rifle Chris (and Jory). Glad it stayed in the group! Attractive wood on Gew 98s always gets my attention haha.

I'm also curious about the "1st pattern sling" you mention. I know Gewehr 98 slings are considered "rare" on their own, and encountered far less than K98k slings. Beyond that, I don't really know all that much about them. Is there a thread about different types of sling patterns for the Gewehr 98? Checked the stickies and didn't see one.
 
Another righteous rifle Chris (and Jory). Glad it stayed in the group! Attractive wood on Gew 98s always gets my attention haha.

I'm also curious about the "1st pattern sling" you mention. I know Gewehr 98 slings are considered "rare" on their own, and encountered far less than K98k slings. Beyond that, I don't really know all that much about them. Is there a thread about different types of sling patterns for the Gewehr 98? Checked the stickies and didn't see one.
Alex, here are the two "money shots" for identifying the slings:

Top is a 1st pattern, the bottom a 2nd.
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Note the leather flap and quick detach is removable on the first pattern and the buckle is affixed to one end of the sling.

On the 2nd pattern, the quick detach is sewn into the sling and the buckle is detachable.
 
Alex, here are the two "money shots" for identifying the slings:

Top is a 1st pattern, the bottom a 2nd.
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Note the leather flap and quick detach is removable on the first pattern and the buckle is affixed to one end of the sling.

On the 2nd pattern, the quick detach is sewn into the sling and the buckle is detachable.
Thank you for the quick write up Chris, I was wondering the same question as OnlyMil when a Gew 98 sling (1st pattern) was posted for sale recently.
 
Thank you for the quick write up Chris, I was wondering the same question as OnlyMil when a Gew 98 sling (1st pattern) was posted for sale recently.

I snagged that 1st pattern for my WMO 1907. I have a second pattern on that one. That will now live on a Gew 98M.
 
Good lord that's a pretty one.

I don't comment often on threads like this but I do want to say I appreciate all the photos you put out there. You take some pretty high quality ones and they're a big help.
 

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