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Elite Diamant

Humbarger

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Looking at Slashes list for 1944 in the manufacturer codes sticky
i see no mention of Elite Diamant production for that year. Did they
cease bayonet manufacturing in 44?
 
I don’t hVe much clue about non 44 bayonets but I think they stopped after 40 or 41. I personally don’t recall seeing a i marked 42 dated blade....someone smarter will be able to confirm.
 
Elite Diamant ceased bayonet production in mid/late 1941. The last examples are stamped with the maker code i.
 
There were 17 original manufacturers, using the assigned "S-code" & then changing to their firm's name, applied to each maker's bayonets up to 1937. In 1938, Ferlach was added which made it 18 manufacturers thru 1939. It went back down to 16 when Durkopp & Gebr. Heller dropped out sometime in 1940. In 1941 Elite-Diamant (i) and J.Sch. (Jeeter & Scheer) both followed suite. However, Chatellerault (jwh) came on board, so the total number of manufacturers remained at 15 from 1942 into 1944. From what we know, only Horster (sgx), P. Weyersberg (crs) and Ferlach (bym) manufactured bayonets into 1945 (with those from Ferlach so dated apparently never leaving the factory in a assembled condition before WW2 ended).
 
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A BIG THANK YOU for all the very educational and informative responses.
I've jumped into bayonet collecting with both feet without being very
educated as to the manufactures or the different rarities. I know I've
paid too much for the last two I bought but the way I figure it is that
no more are being made. So next year what I paid this year won't seem
like too much! :facepalm:
 
I bayonets

You're right Slash! When I started collecting there was very little information on bayonet manufacturers and whatever there was was very incomplete or even incorrect. I always tri#ed to pick up an example that didn't have. The longer I collected the more I saw what I was missing and the "i" code is one I haven't seen yet!
 
You're right Slash! When I started collecting there was very little information on bayonet manufacturers and whatever there was was very incomplete or even incorrect. I always tri#ed to pick up an example that didn't have. The longer I collected the more I saw what I was missing and the "i" code is one I haven't seen yet!

This forum has a ton of great information, very helpful! I have an "i" code one that I picked up a while ago but other than that I haven't seen many of them myself.
 
What was the last i code bayonet production letter block run. I have one numbered 7748 b . I'm sure there are later ones. And about how many where produced ? during 1941 when the changeover was made.
 
From my dbase the highest reported piece is 2586d, but i couldnt confirm this as its wout foto confirmation, but certainly higher c range are reported. That its allways tricky when collectors reports, some wrongly read letters.
 
Maybe this is the right place to ask. I am fairly unfamiliar with K98k accessories and codes/correctness. This is a bayonet I picked up a few years back and I've always questioned if it's correct with a mistake or if it's a lucky "sorta match".

Thanks!
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You have a 1941 " i " which is for maker Elite-Diamant, serial numbered 3947 in the " b " block. The scabbard is a 1941 " cof " which is letter code for maker Carl Eickhorn, serial numbered 3947 (that 3 could be a 5) in the " p " block. Probably paired up post war by a previous owner.
 
Thanks! I had looked up the "cof" code and was thinking it was Eickhorn but never knew before this thread that "i" was a mfg identifier.
 
I personally would look detailed on the serials, firstly it could be done on spare 41cof scabbard, the bayonet itself looks like a war time refurbishment, we should see details of complete blueing on blade. I dont known its the blade sharpened or not. The letter for me looks more like upside down d instead of p on 41cof. Strange is too the scabbard has a Eickhorn type digit fonts and bayonet the Elite typical serialing.
 
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from the flecks and plum blue i would believe the i/41 was reblued in war, postwar it was by someone sharpened the sharpening is not blued, so the blueing is period mostly but probably not same time as production, the 41cof could be spared with it by this refurbishment teoretically when not done postwar?, scratches on scabbard were blued over. There is other reported piece in dbase that was mentioned the letter on scabbard is upside down d, there are other mentioned pieces that P was used in capital upper case form, but i couldnt confirm it, as i dont have real pictures of that range.
 
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Thanks for better pics. I can see the 3 on the scabbard better. I agree with Andy that " p " on the scabbard does look like an upside down " d "
 
I had also thought about German wartime refurb and pairing, but wasn`t sure. Didn`t see any extra numbers stamped indicating a refurbishment. Maybe number or numbers stamped under grips?
 

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