Zf41 Kriegsmodell Stock: Repair in progress

[sethebersm1]

Hi everyone,

Good news:
Was finally successful in tracking down a Kriegsmodell zf41 stock for my L block sporter rescue.

Bad news:
It has had some pretty severe delamination done to it and is “flaking” pretty badly. Judging by the metal and barrel channel this thing looks like an attic find that had one hell of a leaky roof.

For you woodworkers and guys that know your stuff about these stocks (which is a lot of you) is there anything that can be done to repair this thing? I definitely won’t be shooting the rifle in this stock but can’t help but wonder if there’s anyway to repair it and bring it back to life to complete my restoration. Thanks a million guys. Pics below,
Seth

 

[sethebersm1]

Forgive the pic flipping guys, my phone likes to do that sometimes to my pictures.

 

[JimF]

I can’t help you with a “fix” . . . . but that sure illustrates the “why” of the Germans to make the switch from “white” glue to “red”.

 

[jsz]

Sure it’s repairable, though will need extensive work.
jeff

 

[sethebersm1]

Sure it’s reparable, though will need extensive work.
jeff

That’s good news!

 

[biggymu]

I have had experience repairing a white glue stock that was delaminated to a lesser degree.
The results were good.
I got a bag of heavy duty rubber bands. Apply a good amount of white glue/ carpenters glue to all effected areas (water down slightly if needed to get deep penetration). Then wrap that section as tight as you can, like a mummy with the rubber bands. With the damage you have, I would work in sections.
Let it dry for a couple days.
Then I took a flat razor blade and cut the bands off.
Using the razor blade like a scraper, at 90 degrees to the wood, I scraped off the excess glue and contoured the swollen laminate sections back to a reasonable shape, working lengthwise along the stock.
Of course you will need some pieces to replace what’s missing. This is a method that worked well for me.

 

[Gunnut]

Looks like a ZF 41 stock.

 

[moconfed]

Almost looks like a laminate stock kit.
That's going to be a labor of love. Good luck.

 

[sethebersm1]

Ok, guys with the help of Rick/Biggymu repair is going along slowly but nicely. At his recommendation I’ve worked in small sections using white carpenters glue and latex tubing and have slowly been squeezing this thing back together. The only thing I may need a little more help/advice on is what to do with the sections missing laminate pieces. You may be able to see the buttstock pieces of laminate came back together somewhat nicely (still have to do the wrist) and I think anything that didn’t may just need another run of glue and the contour Rick was talking about.

 

[heavy_mech]

First good luck with this! Seems like you're on a good track.

 

[sethebersm1]

Still have quite a ways to go from cleaning up excess on forend/buttstock, gluing middle section and of course replacement pieces but couldn’t help myself from mocking it up (still need a semi matching handguard and byf km front band). Hopefully with a little more love and care it will turn out nicely. Even if it doesn’t, I have a soft spot for restorations so I will be happy the stock didn’t become firewood.

 

[sethebersm1]

More pics.

 

[nirvana]

I wonder if slathering it in glue and then sticking it in a vacuum bag would do the job….

 

[biggymu]

If you have a wood working store nearby, they may have some beechwood veneer or other woods to use as filler. Amazon does list some beechwood veneer. Looks better now. That one needs a lot of love.

 

[Hudson]

I have had experience repairing a white glue stock that was delaminated to a lesser degree.
The results were good.
I got a bag of heavy duty rubber bands. Apply a good amount of white glue/ carpenters glue to all effected areas (water down slightly if needed to get deep penetration). Then wrap that section as tight as you can, like a mummy with the rubber bands. With the damage you have, I would work in sections.
Let it dry for a couple days.
Then I took a flat razor blade and cut the bands off.
Using the razor blade like a scraper, at 90 degrees to the wood, I scraped off the excess glue and contoured the swollen laminate sections back to a reasonable shape, working lengthwise along the stock.
Of course you will need some pieces to replace what’s missing. This is a method that worked well for me.

Agree with this but would suggest latex “surgical” tubing you can get it at hardware stores it’s stretchy and you can get it in long enough length that when your ready to clamping you can wrap the hell out of it. Surgical tubing is my clamp of choice for irregular shaped objects

 

[biggymu]

Agree with this but would suggest latex “surgical” tubing you can get it at hardware stores it’s stretchy and you can get it in long enough length that when your ready to clamping you can wrap the hell out of it. Surgical tubing is my clamp of choice for irregular shaped objects

I opted for the rubber bands for my project because you can control the amount of tension on the surface to be glued with pinpoint accuracy. The larger diameter of the tubing made it more difficult for me to control pressures consistently in certain areas (working out warps in individual layers of laminate etc). The OP did use the surgical tubing. Different strokes. Whatever works.