Troddel identification

[KroniK]

Hello,

These recently came into my possession.
Can anyone identify these troddels please?
I've read the discussions regarding if these were actually used on a SG. 84/98 III or not.
But I haven't found any resources that would help identifying them.
Are there any books available?

Thanks in advance

 

[AndyB]

I would tend to Extra Trodels which should be used on Extra KS98, the last one is a NCO trodell.
From left it should be 5.company, 9.company, 7.company, 8.company.

 

[grimlin13]

There are books available but there is all kinds of information about bayonet knots, troddels, portepees, and faustriemen to be found on the internet.
Here is a fairly good article, https://www.worldmilitariaforum.com/forums/index.php?/topic/313755-sword-dagger-bayonet-knots/
This book has a color chart, but the chart can be found for free on the internet as well. http://www.usmbooks.comwww.usmbooks.com/deutsche_uniformen.html

 

[grimlin13]

Andy is correct that the troddels you have should be used on a Ks98 (dress) bayonet but they were also worn on S84/98III bayonets too. There are period pictures of troddels/knotts worn on S84/98 III bayonets.

 

[KroniK]

Thank you both.
That's a great resource. I actually have Seitengewehr; History of the German Bayonet 1919-1945 in my bookcase, as it came recommended in other threads.
I'll give it another go together with the information provided here.

 

[Slash]

But I haven't found any resources that would help identifying them. Are there any books available?

Edged Weapon Accouterments of Germany 1800 - 1945 by Heinrich Kreutz et al. In my opinion/experience the best single source reference for bayonet Faustriemen, Portepees and Troddeln. Covers accouterments for most all swords, daggers and bayonets of the periods specified. Includes scores of photographs and illustrations most in full color. An excellent reference at a very affordable price. No dog in the fight but definitely a well used title on my shelves. My thoughts only ....

 

[bruce98k]

Agreed...excellent reference.