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Thoughts on BYF 41 Luger

rifleRon38

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Hi everyone, I was looking at some lugers online and I was curious what y'all thought about this one. Its described as having a 10/10 bore, all matching, includes a holster, two matching magazines, and bluing loss on the handgun. Also it includes an "e/655 tool." I can never really tell even after looking at reference photos so I was wondering if you guys thought it was authentic and what do you guys believe its worth? (It was listed at $5000) Thanks for the help.

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I don't see the numbers on the magazines, but I would be very dubious of a byf41 with two original matching numbered magazines.
 
Pics are kinda crappy, but I'm not a huge fan of those mags.

5k for that is too much IMO, but dealer prices have been really jacking up prices lately.
 
Pistol is an X block, right? Wouldn't mags have been unnumbered by this point in 1941? Unserialized fxo mags began showing up around the U block I believe.
 
It looks like an R block, which would still have numbered mags, but I am also not a fan of the markings.
 
I'll be a bit of a contrarian, I think the mag on the right (non-plus) looks OK to me, the second mag I don't get a good feel on but it may be lighting\angle of the picture (spacing of the numbers looks different and there may be some grinding marks), in hand or better pictures would help, the second matching mag increases the value of the rig and is stronger motivation for someone to "find". In my experience, in the current market, this luger with a mismatched mag would be in the $2-2300 range, matching mag adds $5-600, second matching mag add a $1000 (if it's real), holster is in Ok but not minty condition, $300-350, tool (I can't see a proof on it?) if marked e/655 $75-100. So the rig at $5k is over the sum of its parts but maybe that's your starting point in negotiations if you get better pics of the mags to confirm? I would also ask for pictures of the inside of the grips to check if they are numbered\proofed. The rig isn't minty, it's very nice, but there are a lot of "very nice" lugers on the market at any given time, the matching mag(s) would drive the price for the most part in this case.

Nick
 
Sorry I forgot the photo. Here it is:
both have the mold mark running through the base so i dont feel either are scrubbed.. If its a true matching complete rig Id say 5k isnt out of the question in this inflated market.
Byf41's and 42's are bringing stupid numbers right now.. Might not be the best to buy one... Listen to Nick aka DWM for his assessment . He's been tracking these for years..
 
Thank you everyone for your help. I wasn’t going to buy it myself, I was more of asking for a friend so I’ll be sure to relay this information to him. Thanks again.
 
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The font for the number 2 on the right mag is different than the left and the base of that mag appears flattened. I'm not saying definitely that it's faked, but it is reason for pause and closer examination.

I agree I can see that too now. He’ll be seeing it in person so I’ll tell him to look out for that.
 

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