Super quick question - When/what rifles are correct to a cupped DWC buttplate?
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mowzerluvr
Hey Buddy, is that an E/4 in your pocket?
I have noted them on 1942 rifles. AR42 if memory serves.
This particular rifle happens to be an AR42 but the stock was replaced. Thinking they used the butt plate from the original stock. Not basing it solely on this, my friend has an AR42 years ago with the DWC plate as well.
This particular rifle happens to be an AR42 but the stock was replaced. Thinking they used the butt plate from the original stock. Not basing it solely on this, my friend has an AR42 years ago with the DWC plate as well.
In most situations dwc=rework, most seem to have gone to ordnance depots, but a good number show up on BLM/41 and BLM/42 production, - and Mauser-Berlin/1942 production in certain ranges (not common).
So far as my research goes, I have not seen dwc elsewhere in any number, though it wouldn't surprise me if they show up on Gustloff (bcd) production in the same 1942'ish range. Makers like Mauser-Oberndorf and SDP (Steyr) primarily used brg/bpr/gqm and JPS mostly used the consortium, but any maker is possible. The key is placing the component in its surroundings, - the other parts would support or not support it being authentic.
So far as my research goes, I have not seen dwc elsewhere in any number, though it wouldn't surprise me if they show up on Gustloff (bcd) production in the same 1942'ish range. Makers like Mauser-Oberndorf and SDP (Steyr) primarily used brg/bpr/gqm and JPS mostly used the consortium, but any maker is possible. The key is placing the component in its surroundings, - the other parts would support or not support it being authentic.
On reflection, I would probably remove the likelihood of MB being a user, checking trends the two cases are questionable reports with inadequate information. BLM is a certainty due to the methods used (serialing of BP) and numerous reports.
It is possible on any maker though, just very uncommon and more typically is a sign of depot work.
*** Obviously, if ML has seen a confirmed case then I take him at his word, and there is a good chance it is possible.
It is possible on any maker though, just very uncommon and more typically is a sign of depot work.
*** Obviously, if ML has seen a confirmed case then I take him at his word, and there is a good chance it is possible.
waffenmeister
Senior Member
I've always observed dwc B/Ps on reworked rifes also. The only exception is a factory original, matching duv 41 in my collection with a dwc B/P factory numbered to it.
Bob in OHIO
Senior Member
matched duv 42
Mauser4me
Senior Member
Good info - thanks you guys. I just saw one come up for sale as I was 'window-shopping' the web for k98 parts. Sounds like it isn't a code that comes up very often. Part of me wants to get it just because it sounds uncommon. Am I correct in thinking that BLM is exclusively the DUV code?
Warrior1354
ax - hole
No not their only code Berlin Lubeck Maschinenfabrik codes are S/237, 237, duv.
And qve late in the war... I wouldn't buy a dwc buttplate just due to the ordnance code. Unless it is really cheap. Not a lot of use for a loose buttplate and not too man buttplate collectors. Good for a parts bin I suppose, but not likely to come in handy anytime soon. They are not that rare either... less common than brg, bpr, gqm, but that doesn't mean much. If it is serialed it is even worth less.
Warrior1354
ax - hole
Forgot about that one I was just thinking of k98k production codes only.
MAC rifle parts show up RARELY on Mauser-Berlin (rear sights) and dot/44 (bands); BLM is most common, primarily floorplates and followers. Of course they made bayonets, MG bolts and cross bolts too. Probably other things, "Honor Bound" says they made automobile parts and MAC 31 MG's during the war.
