Some odd K98k parts and markings

[JacobA]

While looking at my kar98k, I noticed a few things I found odd. One thing I noticed immediately were the finger grooves in the stock, suggesting a modification or new stock. The stock has no nazi markings that I have found yet. The receiver suggests that the gun was made in Suhl in 1942. However, some other parts have the WaA63 marking on them, which are from earlier rifles (?) including on the sling mount. The strange thing about those markings on the sling mount is it has a swivel on it, which is not original to my knowledge. There’s also a partially stamped eagle on the side of the receiver. Otherwise most of the gun is matching, but some identification help would be appreciated. Lots of photos.

 

[biggymu]

The finger grooves are non factory modifications. They aren’t the same size or length as grooves found on factory German stocks, especially on a laminated stock. No factory wartime k98 had finger grooves.
Your stock was probably sanded during the modification. It may well be matching numbered internally. If you are comfortable taking it apart ( use good quality gun screwdrivers!) you should find serial numbers in the barrel channel and also inside the handguard.

Sauer 42 "n" Block....

Sauer 42 "n" Block...."e" block added... I really lucked into this one earlier this week, local DFW guy was helping to liquidate his Uncles gun collection which was mainly lever guns and SAA pistols...he wasn't sure on this one, and posted a few pics and wanted to know potential value. I gave...

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Here are some pictures of one later than yours showing the internal serials. Couldn’t find pics of a g block.

 

[CanadianAR]

I don’t think that stock is for your rifle. Possible a sanded reworked stock, you’d have to get forensic on it. But no finger grooves, the take down disc is the wrong size from what’s normally seen, and the sling and bolt cutouts too crude for 42 Sauer.

 

[JacobA]

The finger grooves are non factory modifications. They aren’t the same size or length as grooves found on factory German stocks, especially on a laminated stock. No factory wartime k98 had finger grooves.
Your stock was probably sanded during the modification. It may well be matching numbered internally. If you are comfortable taking it apart ( use good quality gun screwdrivers!) you should find serial numbers in the barrel channel and also inside the handguard.

Sauer 42 "n" Block....

Sauer 42 "n" Block...."e" block added... I really lucked into this one earlier this week, local DFW guy was helping to liquidate his Uncles gun collection which was mainly lever guns and SAA pistols...he wasn't sure on this one, and posted a few pics and wanted to know potential value. I gave...

www.k98kforum.com

Here are some pictures of one later than yours showing the internal serials. Couldn’t find pics of a g block.

I tried to take the hand guard off but the spring under the sling mount is very stuck. I could not get it out.

 

[Muncher 1953]

All Sauer stocks had the 25mm takedown discs, through the end of production there. It it is essy to tell the size when you compare it to the sling tab cut out. Besides being on a laminated stock, (never) the finger grooves’ shape & size are incorrect, & don’t even resemble correct ones that have been sanded.

Have you been able to remove the front band? If yes, does the front end of the spring stick up out of the groove, clear of the side of the bayo lug? If yes, try this (may/may not work in your situation): place the rifle on its side in a WELL PADDED vise, spring groove side up. Wrap the bayonet lug in a piece of scrap leather, or heavy cardboard, even 3 layers of duct tape, making sure that the tip of the spring is clear of the lug, if possible, the ‘guard materials’ would be under the tip of the spring. Place a flat screwdriver blade CAREFULLY against the round peg of the spring tip and GENTLY tap it forwards, out from under the rear band. The spring may be stuck by rust or weapon grease, DON’T PRY against the wood sides of the groove, or the front edge of the rear band, it will leave marks.

 

[flynaked]

Some late Sauer stocks have 30mm discs but it’s quite scarce to see. Your stock looks to have come off a postwar Hungarian rework.

 

[heavy_mech]

Some late Sauer stocks have 30mm discs but it’s quite scarce to see. Your stock looks to have come off a postwar Hungarian rework.

Do you think they did those grasping grooves, or is that Bubba's handiwork?

 

[JacobA]

All Sauer stocks had the 25mm takedown discs, through the end of production there. It it is essy to tell the size when you compare it to the sling tab cut out. Besides being on a laminated stock, (never) the finger grooves’ shape & size are incorrect, & don’t even resemble correct ones that have been sanded.

Have you been able to remove the front band? If yes, does the front end of the spring stick up out of the groove, clear of the side of the bayo lug? If yes, try this (may/may not work in your situation): place the rifle on its side in a WELL PADDED vise, spring groove side up. Wrap the bayonet lug in a piece of scrap leather, or heavy cardboard, even 3 layers of duct tape, making sure that the tip of the spring is clear of the lug, if possible, the ‘guard materials’ would be under the tip of the spring. Place a flat screwdriver blade CAREFULLY against the round peg of the spring tip and GENTLY tap it forwards, out from under the rear band. The spring may be stuck by rust or weapon grease, DON’T PRY against the wood sides of the groove, or the front edge of the rear band, it will leave marks.

Alright, thanks a lot I’ll try that