Third Party Press

Sauer Behördenmodell

Pisgah

Moderator²
Staff member
This was at a local shop. Basically, a police pistol, but almost certainly it would have come to the US as a bringback. I didn't know exactly what it was when I found it, but knew it was Sauer and had to be from between the wars. When I bought it, it had either the wrong magazine or had a magazine which had been modified to the point where it wasn't recognizable as original. I found an original magazine on GunBroker for it from one of the Polish sellers. I was impressed with that seller (Dariusz P.) as I received the magazine from Poland in eight days and it is perfect for the pistol. It also had its recoil spring exposed over the back of the barrel with the slide closed (through the ejection port). I knew this was probably wrong and went on a quest to discover why. Short answer is that it was supposed to have a collar at the base of the recoil spring which prevents the recoil spring from being exposed when the slide is closed. I looked all over the internet for the part and couldn't find it anywhere. GPC doesn't have it, etc. I read some posts about the pistol on various forums and found one where someone who knows the model pretty well said that sometimes the collar I was missing gets turned around and is actually inside the pistol but at the muzzle end. I don't know why this would be, but it was. That is good, as it would have taken me a while to find one. The safety on this pistol doubles as a slide hold-open device. Note the style/font of the "S" marking the safe setting. One more interesting note on this pistol: it has a trigger safety, similar to a Glock and other various modern semi-auto pistols. Whether it was intended to allow it to be carried cocked and locked I cannot say. Obviously it has a conventional switch-type safety also.
 

Attachments

  • DSC_0894.jpg
    DSC_0894.jpg
    297.7 KB · Views: 53
  • DSC_0895.jpg
    DSC_0895.jpg
    304.1 KB · Views: 55
  • DSC_0896.jpg
    DSC_0896.jpg
    140.3 KB · Views: 43
  • DSC_0897.jpg
    DSC_0897.jpg
    281.4 KB · Views: 47
  • DSC_0898.jpg
    DSC_0898.jpg
    144.9 KB · Views: 42
  • DSC_0899.jpg
    DSC_0899.jpg
    284.5 KB · Views: 43
  • DSC_0900.jpg
    DSC_0900.jpg
    85.9 KB · Views: 35
  • DSC_0901.jpg
    DSC_0901.jpg
    289.3 KB · Views: 38
  • DSC_0902.jpg
    DSC_0902.jpg
    293.5 KB · Views: 36
  • DSC_0903.jpg
    DSC_0903.jpg
    280.5 KB · Views: 38
  • DSC_0904.jpg
    DSC_0904.jpg
    305.5 KB · Views: 34
Last edited:
Very cool looking little pistol. I have never seen/heard of one before. It is rare for any pistols of that era to show up in a shop near me.
 
Sauer Modell 1913--der ältere Bruder

Another Sauer in 7.65mm. This one was also from a local shop, although about 50 miles from where I found the Behördenmodell I posted above. It appears to be a variant 3 due to the configuration of the safety. It also looks like it is "1920" marked on the left of the slide above the serial number. It disassembles similarly to the Behördenmodell. To disassemble it you lock the slide to the rear by pulling it to the rear and depressing a catch in front of the trigger (the Behördenmodell uses the safety as a slide catch). Both the Modell 1913 and the Behördenmodell have rear sights which double as catches for the slide cap. Depress the rear sight (after locking the slide to the rear) and the cap can be rotated off counter-clockwise. This Modell 1913 also seems to have an internal assembly number, in addition to the serial number. Look at the top of the tang and you will see the number "2559". The last three digits of that number are on the bottom of the muzzle end of the slide, the inside of the muzzle cap, and the bolt body. The Behördenmodell has numbering in the same spots, but uses the last three digits of the actual serial number. Once the slide is locked to the rear, pulling the trigger releases the slide. One other interesting difference in this pistol is that one must push the heel magazine catch forward to release the magazine instead of the usual manner.

Link discussing some of the Sauer models between WWI and the 38H:

http://unblinkingeye.com/Guns/S-S13-30/s-s13-30.html
 

Attachments

  • DSC_0916.jpg
    DSC_0916.jpg
    313.2 KB · Views: 22
  • DSC_0917.jpg
    DSC_0917.jpg
    301.9 KB · Views: 15
  • DSC_0918.jpg
    DSC_0918.jpg
    314.8 KB · Views: 11
  • DSC_0919.jpg
    DSC_0919.jpg
    273 KB · Views: 9
  • DSC_0920.jpg
    DSC_0920.jpg
    302.2 KB · Views: 12
  • DSC_0921.jpg
    DSC_0921.jpg
    256.7 KB · Views: 9
  • DSC_0922.jpg
    DSC_0922.jpg
    259.1 KB · Views: 14
  • DSC_0923.jpg
    DSC_0923.jpg
    286.5 KB · Views: 9
Last edited:
Sauer 38H--der jüngere Bruder

For comparison. This one from the same shop as the Behördenmodell.
 

Attachments

  • DSC_0924.jpg
    DSC_0924.jpg
    293.8 KB · Views: 18
  • DSC_0925.jpg
    DSC_0925.jpg
    289.2 KB · Views: 13
  • DSC_0926.jpg
    DSC_0926.jpg
    293.3 KB · Views: 8
  • DSC_0927.jpg
    DSC_0927.jpg
    293.3 KB · Views: 8
  • DSC_0928.jpg
    DSC_0928.jpg
    277.1 KB · Views: 9
  • DSC_0929.jpg
    DSC_0929.jpg
    267.4 KB · Views: 6
  • DSC_0930.jpg
    DSC_0930.jpg
    261.1 KB · Views: 7
love the grips on the middle pistol. The logo is very elegant. JPS was always second tier to Walther but, made a decent pocket auto.
Thanks for sharing..
 
Second tier yes, but I find 38H fascinating little pistols. The shoot well and "sit" very nicely in the hand....
 
noch ein Sauer Modell 1913

This literally showed up at the same shop as the Behörden and the 38h today. According to the salesman it did not come from the same source as the Behördenmodell. They showed up at the same shop a couple of weeks apart. This one is the second type Sauer Modell 1913.
 

Attachments

  • DSC_0931.jpg
    DSC_0931.jpg
    325.2 KB · Views: 15
  • DSC_0932.jpg
    DSC_0932.jpg
    300.8 KB · Views: 10
  • DSC_0933.jpg
    DSC_0933.jpg
    289 KB · Views: 12
  • DSC_0934.jpg
    DSC_0934.jpg
    287.7 KB · Views: 10

Military Rifle Journal
Back
Top