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Sad story of an otherwise really nice bnz 41

jimdvan

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I bought this gun about 12-13 years ago from a man moving to Turkey. He said he inherited from a friend who'd died a few years earlier. Apparently the friend had been in the U.S. Army and killed the German he took it from in 1945. I know, buy the gun, not the story. But by the time I bought his other two guns and sold them I had this one for free. What a great gun I thought when I examined it. All matching except for the bolt. It is only marked like the photos show. The rest of the gun is profusely marked with WaA77's and 623's. and serial numbers. The stocks are dot marked as well as WaA623. The serial number is not only marked in the barrel channel but also on the underside of the butt and in the sling cut-out. The butt plate is marked on the exterior the usual way but also ink stamped inside. Even the ejector is marked.
When I got it home and disassemebled it my heart sank. I found the barrel had been drilled through to the perfect bore under the rear band and the chamber had been reamed out with an oversized drill to de-mil the gun. What a shame. So, to make it a shooter I went to one of my local gun stores and found a usable WWII barrel for $20 and rebarreled the gun to make it a shooter. At the time I checked with several gunsmiths to maybe get the original barrel, which I still have, relined but they all said due to the caliber it wasn't feasable. Since I bought the dot 1943 the past weekend I had decided to sell this one but the more I mess with it the more I realize I really like it, warts and all so I think I'll just hang onto it. The only thing that worries me a little is that at some point the receiver had been heated on the bottom front to probably remove the original barrel to drill out the chamber. Its a little discolored but seems to be purely surface discoloration. I've shot it several times and the gun has been checked by a gunsmith who said the receiver doesn't appear to have become brittle as a result. The vise marks of the replacement barrel I'm glad to say are not mine. I do better work than that.
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ya, stuff like that happens...Anyway the bolt is out of a 33/40 geman mountain troop carbine. It's a very special bolt only for that rifle. The hollow ball is the dead giveaway. Plus other features.
 
ya, stuff like that happens...Anyway the bolt is out of a 33/40 geman mountain troop carbine. It's a very special bolt only for that rifle. The hollow ball is the dead giveaway. Plus other features.

Thanks for the info. I suspected the bolt knob was some sort of winter feature. I guess if I'm going to start messing with these things again I better start buying the books.
 
Hey Jim...nice gun even being rebarreled....

Let me releave your mind a little....

There where THOUSANDS of 1903/1903a3 guns that the DMC offered that where used for drill rifle purposes..these had there barrels spot welded on the bottom front to the receiver and a rod pounded into the chamber to make them useless....Well there are now thousands of these that have been rebarreled and used---I actually have 2---No problems what so ever after many-many if not a thousand rounds!

The difference I see is someone heated the receiver to remove the barrel, not the way my gunsmith does it--but some do---yes it got hot--how hot? But my bets are it was nothing compaired to the original 1903/1903a3 spot welding--then the cutting of the spot weld of these DMC examples for rebarreling.

Enjoy!

BAF
 
Hey Jim...nice gun even being rebarreled....

Let me releave your mind a little....

There where THOUSANDS of 1903/1903a3 guns that the DMC offered that where used for drill rifle purposes..these had there barrels spot welded on the bottom front to the receiver and a rod pounded into the chamber to make them useless....Well there are now thousands of these that have been rebarreled and used---I actually have 2---No problems what so ever after many-many if not a thousand rounds!

The difference I see is someone heated the receiver to remove the barrel, not the way my gunsmith does it--but some do---yes it got hot--how hot? But my bets are it was nothing compaired to the original 1903/1903a3 spot welding--then the cutting of the spot weld of these DMC examples for rebarreling.

Enjoy!

BAF

Good point. I know that some M1 Garands have been barreled with 2 groove barrels that turned out to be 1903A3 barrels that were turned down, and the Garand barrel drilled out, and the two pressed or soldered together to rebarrel Garands. I wonder if the same could be done to my rifle.
 

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