Recoil Lug ID

[jayhawker11b]

I came into possession of this recoil when building a K98. I can not find any examples of this type online with the 2 raised portions. The left side of picture below is marked with a "J." Was told it was late war German. Thanks for any insight.

 

[Muncher 1953]

I came into possession of this recoil when building a K98. I can not find any examples of this type online with the 2 raised portions. The left side of picture below is marked with a "J." Was told it was late war German. Thanks for any insight.

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I’ve seen/handled more than a few, never seen one like it. is this the front or back side? I can envision several problems that may come from using it, I’d look for another. more photos might help w/better ID. The ‘J’, are you certain its not an ‘f’ ? ‘f’ marked lugs are common on bcd rifles, its the subcontractor code.

 

[jayhawker11b]

Added a picture of the other side. After closer inspection, I may see faint line to make the J into a f, it’s hard to tell. Thank you.

 

[Firebug90]

My Swedish CG-63's have lugs like this with a small raised portion on the front edge. I will try to get pictures tonight if I remember. I don't know if it was specific to the match rifles or if the 1896 Swedes had the same setup.

edit: Must be unique to the CG target rifles. The original stocks don't have cross bolts! I'll tear one apart and take photos tonight.

 

[jayhawker11b]

Thank you sir

 

[Muncher 1953]

Added a picture of the other side. After closer inspection, I may see faint line to make the J into a f, it’s hard to tell. Thank you.

could we see an ‘above’ view? the ‘head’ of the lug should always be on the left, nut on right. on most lugs I’ve seen, there is an ever-so-slight chamfer on the upper front edge, by which you can tell front from back of the lug. there are 3 basic types: 1) 1 piece, head is tapered top to bottom to match the curvature of the stock 2) 1 piece, head not tapered 3) 2 piece, a washer & ‘bar’ of lug is headed over to hold the washer still has nut on right end (late war type) no taper to head.
if yours goes ‘bumps forward’ seems like there should be 3 bumps for full support, if ‘bumps back’ same concern and I’d think the bumps would dig into the wood between the lug & the mag well part of the TG, making it tough to remove if needed.
can you measure the 2 dimensions of the ‘bar’ section? a standard lug is 6mm x 10mm x 43mm long.

 

[Firebug90]

Not CG-63. Just has the center raised portion but the lug is just pressed in from the top, not part of a cross bolt like the K98k. The bolt is just for tension/compression in the lug area.

 

[jayhawker11b]

Hope this helps.

 

[jayhawker11b]

Not CG-63. Just has the center raised portion but the lug is just pressed in from the top, not part of a cross bolt like the K98k. The bolt is just for tension/compression in the lug area.


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thank you for checking, it was a good thought.

 

[Firebug90]

thank you for checking, it was a good thought.

No problem. Just throwing out ideas, no evidence to support it but did the Norwegians ever use K98's for target/competition shooting? I don't know the theory that the Swedes had for doing such a thing on the CG-63 but the rifles were purpose built for precision and that's the only other place I've seen that sort of 'feature'. Maybe some sort of scandanavian trade secret

 

[Jdt]

No problem. Just throwing out ideas, no evidence to support it but did the Norwegians ever use K98's for target/competition shooting? I don't know the theory that the Swedes had for doing such a thing on the CG-63 but the rifles were purpose built for precision and that's the only other place I've seen that sort of 'feature'. Maybe some sort of scandanavian trade secret

Should be some Swedish Mauser groups on Facebook that ya can ask about that