Reasonable Prices For Various Pistols/Revolvers?

[Reptaronice1]

I will be turning 21 here shortly and am thinking about getting a gift for my father. He has co2 replicas of the Nagant revolver and the Webley Mk6, I am wondering what is a reasonable price you can find these for.

The Nagants seem to be the cheapest followed by the Webleys, then over $1000 seem to be the Luger’s etc. I would just like some info on these price wise and any other WW2 handguns you could suggest that you think he may like.

 

[AN-94]

You can regularly find common refurb Nagant revolvers for around $400. Webleys are a mixed bag, shaved cylinders will go for less than an intact one, intact .455 Webleys with unshaved cylinders will go for $1k+. Another option would be the Smith & Wesson Victory revolvers, the Lend Lease ones (5" barrel, .38-200 caliber) are around $500 or so iirc, the US marked ones (4" barrel) are a bit more, around $700 or so. There's also the Enfield No.2 revolvers though I don't follow prices on those.

 

[Reptaronice1]

You can regularly find common refurb Nagant revolvers for around $400. Webleys are a mixed bag, shaved cylinders will go for less than an intact one, intact .455 Webleys with unshaved cylinders will go for $1k+. Another option would be the Smith & Wesson Victory revolvers, the Lend Lease ones (5" barrel, .38-200 caliber) are around $500 or so iirc, the US marked ones (4" barrel) are a bit more, around $700 or so. There's also the Enfield No.2 revolvers though I don't follow prices on those.

So Nagant would be the best bet for around $500? I doubt I’ll be seeing any Lugers etc for that price range. He likes the Schofield models as well and we also have a replica of a C96 Mauser,

 

[Reptaronice1]

You can regularly find common refurb Nagant revolvers for around $400. Webleys are a mixed bag, shaved cylinders will go for less than an intact one, intact .455 Webleys with unshaved cylinders will go for $1k+. Another option would be the Smith & Wesson Victory revolvers, the Lend Lease ones (5" barrel, .38-200 caliber) are around $500 or so iirc, the US marked ones (4" barrel) are a bit more, around $700 or so. There's also the Enfield No.2 revolvers though I don't follow prices on those.

Also, could you give me some tips on what to look for in a good Nagant revolver? I don’t know them very well so i am not sure what is worth more or less

 

[AN-94]

Also, could you give me some tips on what to look for in a good Nagant revolver? I don’t know them very well so i am not sure what is worth more or less

I'm not a pro on 1895 Nagants by any means but any revolver dating back to Imperial times (1895-1917) is worth more than the common Soviet production. Most of the Soviet made ones you'll see these days will be made from 1930 onwards and import marked as there was a huge surplus of them imported in the late '90s-2000s iirc. Revolvers not import marked and not refurbed (mostly Imperial from what I gather) will be worth more than the standard refurbs available on the market (similar to M91/30s). Otherwise, condition is the big thing for most refurbs, stuff like bore condition, finish wear, good grips, etc. Ammo is 7.62x38R and unique to the 1895 Nagant, though PPU makes it and is easily available. Most of the refurbs can be found with holster and cleaning rod so make sure to grab one with those since they're common enough. Here's a link to an article on Soviet repair/refurb markings, applicable to most Soviet firearms retained post WWII since most refurbs are bound to have at least one of these markings present somewhere.

Repair depots & refurnishment facilities markings | m9130.info

Detailed information about markings used during Mosin rifles and carbines repair and refurbishment. Section covers markings used by various repair bases, depots, stocks, Arsenals, including famous so called MO "Defence Ministry" and "1 in triangle DDR" markings.

www.m9130.info

 

[Reptaronice1]

I'm not a pro on 1895 Nagants by any means but any revolver dating back to Imperial times (1895-1917) is worth more than the common Soviet production. Most of the Soviet made ones you'll see these days will be made from 1930 onwards and import marked as there was a huge surplus of them imported in the late '90s-2000s iirc. Revolvers not import marked and not refurbed (mostly Imperial from what I gather) will be worth more than the standard refurbs available on the market (similar to M91/30s). Otherwise, condition is the big thing for most refurbs, stuff like bore condition, finish wear, good grips, etc. Ammo is 7.62x38R and unique to the 1895 Nagant, though PPU makes it and is easily available. Most of the refurbs can be found with holster and cleaning rod so make sure to grab one with those since they're common enough. Here's a link to an article on Soviet repair/refurb markings, applicable to most Soviet firearms retained post WWII since most refurbs are bound to have at least one of these markings present somewhere.

Repair depots & refurnishment facilities markings | m9130.info

Detailed information about markings used during Mosin rifles and carbines repair and refurbishment. Section covers markings used by various repair bases, depots, stocks, Arsenals, including famous so called MO "Defence Ministry" and "1 in triangle DDR" markings.

www.m9130.info

Thanks so much for the info! I’ll definitely check here if I find one I think looks good.

 

[Hambone]

So Nagant would be the best bet for around $500? I doubt I’ll be seeing any Lugers etc for that price range. He likes the Schofield models as well and we also have a replica of a C96 Mauser,

I would recommend a Webley Mk.IV WW2 "War Finish" or an Enfield No.2 revolver. Because, in short, I think I might rather have a hammer or a hatchet than a Nagant revolver. I actually like the WW2 top breaks, although the .38-200 cartridge leaves much to be desired. I know these pretty good and can help you if you find one of interest.

https://www.k98kforum.com/threads/british-commonwealth-pistols-of-ww2.41896/

 

[Reptaronice1]

I would recommend a Webley Mk.IV WW2 "War Finish" or an Enfield No.2 revolver. Because, in short, I think I might rather have a hammer or a hatchet than a Nagant revolver. I actually like the WW2 top breaks, although the .38-200 cartridge leaves much to be desired. I know these pretty good and can help you if you find one of interest.

https://www.k98kforum.com/threads/british-commonwealth-pistols-of-ww2.41896/

Thanks for the advice! Could you give me some info on the differences between the MK4 and MK6 Webleys?

Here is the C02 model we have in .177 https://www.pyramydair.com/product/webley-mkvi-co2-pellet-revolver-battlefield-finish?m=4482

Overall do they look similar? He really likes the look of the MK6. The biggest thing I would be worried about would be finding ammo as well. He like shooting stuff that has affordable ammo.

If I had the cash I’d love to just get him a Luger in 9mm.

 

[Reptaronice1]

I would recommend a Webley Mk.IV WW2 "War Finish" or an Enfield No.2 revolver. Because, in short, I think I might rather have a hammer or a hatchet than a Nagant revolver. I actually like the WW2 top breaks, although the .38-200 cartridge leaves much to be desired. I know these pretty good and can help you if you find one of interest.

https://www.k98kforum.com/threads/british-commonwealth-pistols-of-ww2.41896/

I will get his opinion a little bit later on today about the Enfield No.2, really cool revolver!

 

[Reptaronice1]

I would recommend a Webley Mk.IV WW2 "War Finish" or an Enfield No.2 revolver. Because, in short, I think I might rather have a hammer or a hatchet than a Nagant revolver. I actually like the WW2 top breaks, although the .38-200 cartridge leaves much to be desired. I know these pretty good and can help you if you find one of interest.

https://www.k98kforum.com/threads/british-commonwealth-pistols-of-ww2.41896/

I was able to show him the Enfield today, he definitely likes the Webley more, the only thing I’d be concerned about is it seems 38 S&W is hard to find

 

[Hambone]

I was able to show him the Enfield today, he definitely likes the Webley more, the only thing I’d be concerned about is it seems 38 S&W is hard to find

If you want a WW2 revolver to shoot, get a US Victory model in .38 spl. There's plenty of .38 spl. around.

 

[Reptaronice1]

If you want a WW2 revolver to shoot, get a US Victory model in .38 spl. There's plenty of .38 spl. around.

How hard is it to find ammo for the MK6 Webley?

 

[Hambone]

If you want the big Mk.VI .455 get one that’s had the cylinder shaved to shoot readily available .45 acp. You’ll need half or full moon clips but that’s no big deal. Most are shaved for .45 acp for surplus sales here in the 60s-70s.