krukster86
Well-known member
Hello all,
User Dusky and I have become new Luger P.08 owners this year, and he and I have been discussing some considerations and caretaking measures in regards to maintenance and taking them out to the range. Apologies for my ignorance, as I have much to learn about these.
Dusky shared with me a forum post he came across about using a "go/no-go method" of using tape on the frame shoulder to determine if the ammo used for shooting the pistol produces too much recoil from the pressure of the cartridge (and whether or not the main spring has a sufficient spring constant to balance it out). I am assuming that this check is to determine that if the tape is broken after shooting a cartridge, then it signifies that the combination of the ammo loading and the recoil spring pressure condition/coefficient results in the toggle joint imposing too much force on the frame when it begins to ride the shoulder to break the linkage.
It appears that this is going to be an exhaustive and finicky balancing act to find the ideal balance of each (right ammo and right spring) for each pistol. However, one thing I would like to understand is this:
From my general understanding, the toggle action does require the joint to impact the frame shoulder/slope surface in order to "break" the linear orientation of the links. Regardless, wouldn't there be naturally wear in these areas anyway? Is the concern just that there may be TOO MUCH force impacted on the frame to potentially deform it over time?
I am intending to only take these pistols out once every blue moon and maybe put 2-3 magazines through them at a time. I am just curious if, based on the photos below, these show indications that the main recoil spring is on its last legs? As of this post, I still haven't found the time to take these out to the range, so they have not had any rounds through them since I acquired them.
Luger P.08 #1: DWM 1913 from BigWagon.
Luger P.08 #2: DWM 1916/1920 double date (mixmaster and refinished)
User Dusky and I have become new Luger P.08 owners this year, and he and I have been discussing some considerations and caretaking measures in regards to maintenance and taking them out to the range. Apologies for my ignorance, as I have much to learn about these.
Dusky shared with me a forum post he came across about using a "go/no-go method" of using tape on the frame shoulder to determine if the ammo used for shooting the pistol produces too much recoil from the pressure of the cartridge (and whether or not the main spring has a sufficient spring constant to balance it out). I am assuming that this check is to determine that if the tape is broken after shooting a cartridge, then it signifies that the combination of the ammo loading and the recoil spring pressure condition/coefficient results in the toggle joint imposing too much force on the frame when it begins to ride the shoulder to break the linkage.
It appears that this is going to be an exhaustive and finicky balancing act to find the ideal balance of each (right ammo and right spring) for each pistol. However, one thing I would like to understand is this:
From my general understanding, the toggle action does require the joint to impact the frame shoulder/slope surface in order to "break" the linear orientation of the links. Regardless, wouldn't there be naturally wear in these areas anyway? Is the concern just that there may be TOO MUCH force impacted on the frame to potentially deform it over time?
I am intending to only take these pistols out once every blue moon and maybe put 2-3 magazines through them at a time. I am just curious if, based on the photos below, these show indications that the main recoil spring is on its last legs? As of this post, I still haven't found the time to take these out to the range, so they have not had any rounds through them since I acquired them.
Luger P.08 #1: DWM 1913 from BigWagon.
Luger P.08 #2: DWM 1916/1920 double date (mixmaster and refinished)
