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New Radom holster code, to me anyway.

Franchi

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Saw this on eBay. I have been collecting holsters and data on the manufacturer codes and WaA's for quite a few years and haven't seen this gxz code. Holster is marked gxz, 1943, WaA182, not grz.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/393970511743

David

https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/pOEAAOSwMcdiITX8/s-l1600.jpg
 
Hummm...First off, is the holster brown or factory dyed black? Second, is it cut for and/or has the lift-up strap? The earliest marked holster I saw/had was kind of a "oxblood" color. The marking was a rectangular "Eagle/WaA77" between the belt loops. This marking is the same die pattern seen inside K98k buttplates stamped on the brown anti-rust paint inside. Most earlier holsters are ink-marked "bnz". Some few are die-stamped "fuq"and 1942 (maybe 43, too) between the belt loops. Getting into late 1944 and '45, the lift-strap was omitted (although some holsters will have the slot punched for the strap but it will never have been installed). The late codes are "grz", gaq, and I believe "ror" (the latter likely being a revised code for "grz"). Examples of dates are "grz 194", "gaq 4 or 5" and the late "ror" most likely dated for 1945. The holster has a code never before encountered on such a item. The German code directory identifies "gxz" as belonging to Ernst Heinkel, A.- G. Werk Jenbach/Tirol, it. 8. Nachtrag and we know what they made! This is not a "lederwarenfabrik" which typically produced such items. Looking at the inconsistencies of the ink marking and 1943 date, IMHO someone free-handed this with a ink pen in an attempt to deceive or possibly embellish a very weak or partial original marking. That individual was not aware of the actual known, authentic manufacturer codes/dates either...
 
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Not my holster, there is an eBay link in my first post. I blew up the marking, I believe I can see an "r" under the "x", and the 1943 was 194. Pretty good fake, except for the "3".

David
 

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IMHO someone free-handed this with a ink pen in an attempt to deceive or possibly embellish a very weak or partial original marking.

I kept glancing at this thread but never really looked at the photo. Now that I stopped to look someone definitely took what I think was a ball point pen and just wrote the code on. Interesting way to make a rough holster get max at auction.
 
Not my holster, there is an eBay link in my first post. I blew up the marking, I believe I can see an "r" under the "x", and the 1943 was 194. Pretty good fake, except for the "3".

David
David, edited my post to "the" holster. So used to seeing items that belong to a O.P., this one slipped by...
 
Great job calling it out! It brought a pretty high price for a hump-up.
Makes we want to start practicing with my ball point pen. o_O 🤪 :D:ROFLMAO: :LOL:
 

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