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Help with some markings on my 1871 Amberg

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tazaroo

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Just wondering if someone could help me with the unit marking and some of the other markings on my 1871 Amberg. Namely, the (22) behind the receiver tang, the unit marking and the "SD" on the stock. I'm guessing she was made in 1883 and went though some type of overhaul in 1887? Thanks in advance folks.
016 by vintage collector, on Flickr
021 by vintage collector, on Flickr
017 by vintage collector, on Flickr
018 by vintage collector, on Flickr
022 by vintage collector, on Flickr
023 by vintage collector, on Flickr
019 by vintage collector, on Flickr
020 by vintage collector, on Flickr
 
Nice rifle, I added it to the research thread:

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RESEARCH PROJECT - Mod. 71 and Mod. 71/84 - Craig Brown

This thread represents an effort to identify all the makers and estimate each firms production for the Mod.71 and Mod.71/84 variations. This project was inspired by Craig Brown, who has done much of the work here, he passed away on March 2, 2016. One of the greatest researchers and collectors in...
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deciphering the meaning of dating would be better if looked up in Storz book, but from memory 1883 (mfg) 87(issuance), you can see from the thread trends a very close brother is recorded:

1883-87 Amberg 2847 (J.G. M/71) C/L unit: B.17.R.1.65. (TBP)
1883 Amberg 3635 (J.G. M.71) C/L unit: B.17.R.7.165 (buttplate tang-top -m/m 71445) (LR)
1883-87 Amberg 3823 (J.G. M.71) C/L unit: B.2.A.F.6.86. (TBP) (Tazaroo)
1883-87 Amberg 3831 (J.G. M.71) C/L unit: B.2.A.F.6.90. (TBP)
1883-87 Amberg 3874 (J.G. M.71) C/L unit: n/a
 
I can't help you with the 22 on the stock (although my initial guess is some kind of property mark related to the other one near it) but I'd be willing to bet money that the SD is just the initials of someone who owned the gun in the 50s or whenever. You see that a lot. Especially with how crude it look.

Given the holes, my guess is the initials were picked out once in nails or furniture tacks. Again, something people did to embellish their stuff. Start looking at personalized rifles from the late 19th or early 20th century and some broad trends start to emerge.
 
AndyB said:
Yes the initials were nailed on borders. It would be nice to see 87 is behind the 1883 as a previous year of production?
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As Lowe said, the 83 is year of production and the 87 is the year of issuance. I'm not going to page through Storz find if he lays it out explicitly, but the book is full of photos where he notes the date of production and the date of issuance both being on an m71. Page 147 is one I found with a cursory flip through.
 
Loewe said:
Nice rifle, I added it to the research thread:

www.k98kforum.com

RESEARCH PROJECT - Mod. 71 and Mod. 71/84 - Craig Brown

This thread represents an effort to identify all the makers and estimate each firms production for the Mod.71 and Mod.71/84 variations. This project was inspired by Craig Brown, who has done much of the work here, he passed away on March 2, 2016. One of the greatest researchers and collectors in...
www.k98kforum.com www.k98kforum.com

deciphering the meaning of dating would be better if looked up in Storz book, but from memory 1883 (mfg) 87(issuance), you can see from the thread trends a very close brother is recorded:

1883-87 Amberg 2847 (J.G. M/71) C/L unit: B.17.R.1.65. (TBP)
1883 Amberg 3635 (J.G. M.71) C/L unit: B.17.R.7.165 (buttplate tang-top -m/m 71445) (LR)
1883-87 Amberg 3823 (J.G. M.71) C/L unit: B.2.A.F.6.86. (TBP) (Tazaroo)
1883-87 Amberg 3831 (J.G. M.71) C/L unit: B.2.A.F.6.90. (TBP)
1883-87 Amberg 3874 (J.G. M.71) C/L unit: n/a
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Interesting that the two guns only 8 serials apart went to the same unit. Another data point in shipments being batched like that.
 
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