CG Haenel Kar71

[cj556]

I picked this up earlier in the week. Rear portion of bolt (Safety, striker and cocking piece) are mismatch but other parts are matching. Receiver has an 1877 mfg. date but no issue date or unit markings are present. Tang screw is tight and I am unable to get it out of the wood to check the barrel markings. The carbine is probably my favorite variant of the 71, as they are short and handy.

 

[chrisftk]

That's a nice looking CGH, or as I've heard it called by someone once, CJ Heinkel

I agree on these being a nice handy little carbine. It's a nice clean one overall!

 

[PrayingMantis]

Great Kar 71 carbine, Marc! I love these little guys, too; certainly are handy and the nose looks cool. I’ll get her in the reference!

 

[AN-94]

That's a great little CGH Kar 71, love the wood on this one! Congrats!

 

[joryfreeburg]

Nice piece of wood on that one Marc….. Nice carbine

 

[R.Blue]

I’ve got a Haenel commercial sporter like it…it’s a beauty.
I want to take it boar hunting one day.

 

[Fal Grunt]

Was this the one on gunbroker recently? I was heavily tempted to chase it to buy, but just spent way too much on parts. I thought it went very reasonably, and for the most part it looks nicer than the auction pictures.

 

[Fal Grunt]

I’ve got a Haenel commercial sporter like it…it’s a beauty.
I want to take it boar hunting one day.

Would love to see this rifle. I track CG Haenel commercial rifles and would be interested to see pictures.

I own a pre 1893 “88” commercial rifle that is one of the earliest commercial rifles I have seen from them, but I know there are more out there. Would be interested to see where your 71 falls.

 

[AndyB]

crown L would speak for bavarian delivery.

 

[cj556]

Was this the one on gunbroker recently? I was heavily tempted to chase it to buy, but just spent way too much on parts. I thought it went very reasonably, and for the most part it looks nicer than the auction pictures.

Yes that’s the one. The last one I bid on went to the tune of 2500 and was outbid of course.

crown L would speak for bavarian delivery.

I figured as much seems like a lot of the Imperial arms we see in the US have Bavarian lineage .

 

[cj556]

I’ve got a Haenel commercial sporter like it…it’s a beauty.
I want to take it boar hunting one day.

I’m also curious to see this. Presume it’s an 88 variant of some sort but I know very little of commercial arms.

Nice piece of wood on that one Marc….. Nice carbine

That's a great little CGH Kar 71, love the wood on this one! Congrats!

That's a great little CGH Kar 71, love the wood on this one! Congrats!

That's a nice looking CGH, or as I've heard it called by someone once, CJ Heinkel

I agree on these being a nice handy little carbine. It's a nice clean one overall!

Great Kar 71 carbine, Marc! I love these little guys, too; certainly are handy and the nose looks cool. I’ll get her in the reference!

Thank you gents.

 

[R.Blue]

I’m also curious to see this. Presume it’s an 88 variant of some sort but I know very little of commercial arms.







Thank you gents.

Hey guys…sorry it was late last night and I wanted to take the photos outside for you.
I’ve never seen another one…there is a serial number on the buttplate and proofs on the bolt handle.
The inletting of the stock is first rate as well as the checkering..there is still some color case hardening showing in the receiver ..the rear sights are express style with ivory ( I think) sighting aid for low level light..the front sight has a pop up bead feature….set triggers and horn furniture…

 

[biggymu]

Hey guys…sorry it was late last night and I wanted to take the photos outside for you.
I’ve never seen another one…there is a serial number on the buttplate and proofs on the bolt handle.
The inletting of the stock is first rate as well as the checkering..there is still some color case hardening showing in the receiver ..the rear sights are express style with ivory ( I think) sighting aid for low level light..the front sight has a pop up bead feature….set triggers and horn furniture…View attachment 419723View attachment 419724View attachment 419725View attachment 419726View attachment 419727View attachment 419728View attachment 419729View attachment 419730View attachment 419731View attachment 419732View attachment 419733View attachment 419734View attachment 419735View attachment 419736View attachment 419737

Wow that’s a beauty! I’ve not seen one like it before. Very cool!

 

[Fal Grunt]

Yes that’s the one. The last one I bid on went to the tune of 2500 and was outbid of course.

I figured as much seems like a lot of the Imperial arms we see in the US have Bavarian lineage .

I was quite surprised how inexpensive it went for such a nice example! I was expecting in the $1500-$2000 range, which is why I wasn't seriously considering it.

Hey guys…sorry it was late last night and I wanted to take the photos outside for you.
I’ve never seen another one…there is a serial number on the buttplate and proofs on the bolt handle.
The inletting of the stock is first rate as well as the checkering..there is still some color case hardening showing in the receiver ..the rear sights are express style with ivory ( I think) sighting aid for low level light..the front sight has a pop up bead feature….set triggers and horn furniture…

Thank you so much for taking the time to photograph. Typical exceptional workmanship on a commercial Haenel. A few things that are of interest about this rifle. The action is not quite an 1871, but looks to be a simplified/altered 1871, which is surprising and interesting. They occasionally made "oddball" versions that were modified, and this one might be an example. Also of interest is the R U proof, which shows it went back to the proof house at some point. The 88' that I referenced earlier is serial 2796, and has the "rare" V proof which means it was already built, but on the shelf at the implementation of the 1893 proof laws. This would indicate that your rifle was produced at some point before 1893, however went back in for some reason for some work which necessitated a visit to the proof house.

Are you willing and able to take the rifle down for more pictures in another thread? I would be very interested to see if there are any barrel markings and if you would take down the bolt and action to examine it in detail. Just to confirm the serial number is 2039?

Apologies for the digression from your great example Marc!

 

[cj556]

I was quite surprised how inexpensive it went for such a nice example! I was expecting in the $1500-$2000 range, which is why I wasn't seriously considering it.

Thank you so much for taking the time to photograph. Typical exceptional workmanship on a commercial Haenel. A few things that are of interest about this rifle. The action is not quite an 1871, but looks to be a simplified/altered 1871, which is surprising and interesting. They occasionally made "oddball" versions that were modified, and this one might be an example. Also of interest is the R U proof, which shows it went back to the proof house at some point. The 88' that I referenced earlier is serial 2796, and has the "rare" V proof which means it was already built, but on the shelf at the implementation of the 1893 proof laws. This would indicate that your rifle was produced at some point before 1893, however went back in for some reason for some work which necessitated a visit to the proof house.

Are you willing and able to take the rifle down for more pictures in another thread? I would be very interested to see if there are any barrel markings and if you would take down the bolt and action to examine it in detail. Just to confirm the serial number is 2039?

Apologies for the digression from your great example Marc!

No worries Nate.

 

[R.Blue]

I was quite surprised how inexpensive it went for such a nice example! I was expecting in the $1500-$2000 range, which is why I wasn't seriously considering it.

Thank you so much for taking the time to photograph. Typical exceptional workmanship on a commercial Haenel. A few things that are of interest about this rifle. The action is not quite an 1871, but looks to be a simplified/altered 1871, which is surprising and interesting. They occasionally made "oddball" versions that were modified, and this one might be an example. Also of interest is the R U proof, which shows it went back to the proof house at some point. The 88' that I referenced earlier is serial 2796, and has the "rare" V proof which means it was already built, but on the shelf at the implementation of the 1893 proof laws. This would indicate that your rifle was produced at some point before 1893, however went back in for some reason for some work which necessitated a visit to the proof house.

Are you willing and able to take the rifle down for more pictures in another thread? I would be very interested to see if there are any barrel markings and if you would take down the bolt and action to examine it in detail. Just to confirm the serial number is 2039?

Apologies for the digression from your great example Marc!

I’ll try to get it tonight. The action is a little different…it’s a little shorter than a 71’…you have to insert the bullet into the chamber rather than simply laying the whole cartridge on the feed tray..I’ll show that in some photos.

 

[R.Blue]

I was quite surprised how inexpensive it went for such a nice example! I was expecting in the $1500-$2000 range, which is why I wasn't seriously considering it.

Thank you so much for taking the time to photograph. Typical exceptional workmanship on a commercial Haenel. A few things that are of interest about this rifle. The action is not quite an 1871, but looks to be a simplified/altered 1871, which is surprising and interesting. They occasionally made "oddball" versions that were modified, and this one might be an example. Also of interest is the R U proof, which shows it went back to the proof house at some point. The 88' that I referenced earlier is serial 2796, and has the "rare" V proof which means it was already built, but on the shelf at the implementation of the 1893 proof laws. This would indicate that your rifle was produced at some point before 1893, however went back in for some reason for some work which necessitated a visit to the proof house.

Are you willing and able to take the rifle down for more pictures in another thread? I would be very interested to see if there are any barrel markings and if you would take down the bolt and action to examine it in detail. Just to confirm the serial number is 2039?

Apologies for the digression from your great example Marc!

Marc-
I can’t get it out of the stock…I don’t have the blade for the tang screw (and I have a ton of screw driver blades) - that fits…I don’t want to bugger up that screw head.
I did get some shots of barrel markings for you and a C/V on the left side of the receiver, opposite the chamber. The barrel markings are on the ride side of the barrel, just forward the chamber.

As for the bolt…it’s a smaller version of the 71. I took some shots of the action with a round in it next to another 71 surplus sporter that I have…you can see the difference in the loading tray…


Here are some shots of the bolts together for comparison and some shots of the other proofs on the bolt-
I’ve taken a 71/84 bolt down but not a 71…I err on the side of caution with these older pieces…