Bolt Identification

[Bassaro]

Hello all, this bolt came in a “project” G33/40 that I recently picked up and am currently finishing up. I am aware this is a K98 bolt and not a G33/40 bolt. I sourced a correct bolt and I am probably going to sale this one off. I don’t know a lot about K98s and would like to identify the variant this is for. I’m hoping you fine folks can help me out with that.

It has E/37 proofs on the bolt shroud, extractor claw, under the bolt handle. Bolt handle is not numbered but shroud is. I have not disassembled this bolt to check the firing pin. Looks to maybe be refinished as the extractor claw color looks wrong. I was thinking Russian capture but there’s no electro penciling. Seeing as how it came out of a G33/40 could it have been a Norwegian captured K98 bolt reworked in Norway and put in G33/40?

Like I said, I’m limited in my K98 knowledge so any help would be greatly appreciated.

 

[swjXE]

If the bolt body isn't numbered to your rifle, I wouldn't worry too much about replacing it with a proper 33/40 bolt.

 

[Bassaro]

If the bolt body isn't numbered to your rifle, I wouldn't worry too much about replacing it with a proper 33/40 bolt.

I already have the G33/40 bolt in the mail headed to me. This K98 bolt just looked goofy in it.

I’m new to k98s but not collecting. I have mainly focused on WW1 and WW2 era pistols. I understand that mismatched will always be mismatched. But there’s something to be said about being parts correct. And come on it’s a G33/40…lol. It’s been a fun project.

Anyway if someone could help me out with what make/year the pictured bolt is I would greatly appreciate it.

Thank you

 

[swjXE]

I already have the G33/40 bolt in the mail headed to me. This K98 bolt just looked goofy in it.

I’m new to k98s but not collecting. I have mainly focused on WW1 and WW2 era pistols. I understand that mismatched will always be mismatched. But there’s something to be said about being parts correct. And come on it’s a G33/40…lol. It’s been a fun project.

Anyway if someone could help me out with what make/year the pictured bolt is I would greatly appreciate it.

Thank you

The proofs are J.P. Sauer & Son Most likely 42-44.

 

[Gerst]

it is pretty dark.

 

[swjXE]

it is pretty dark.

Oh no! Am I wrong again!

 

[Bassaro]

Yeah, sorry, pictures are kinda bad.

 

[AN-94]

I agree on it being a JP Sauer though I think it predates 1942 bolt given the root has 2 E/37 waffenamts vs the lack of waffenamt inspections found later in 1942-1944, the cocking piece is a subcontracted component by Kohler which is typically seen on Gustloff rifles. Bolt shroud looks like a E/26 to me which would indicate Mauser Borsigwalde instead of JP Sauer.

 

[Gerst]

Russian capture maybe? Did they all have electric pencil numbers? Maybe it’s just a “thrown together after the war” bolt.

 

[Muncher 1953]

<snipped> Maybe it’s just a “thrown together after the war” bolt.

assembled from parts & refinished, from the pics.
OP: the extractor should be “plum” color, may have been refinished with the other parts.

 

[tsmgguy]

The two gas relief holes in the bolt body are not visible in your photos. Round would be late war; oval shaped would be early/mid war. The bolt does look refinished.

 

[Turbo Archie]

Ground RC. do all the parts match?

 

[swjXE]

I agree on it being a JP Sauer though I think it predates 1942 bolt given the root has 2 E/37 waffenamts vs the lack of waffenamt inspections found later in 1942-1944, the cocking piece is a subcontracted component by Kohler which is typically seen on Gustloff rifles. Bolt shroud looks like a E/26 to me which would indicate Mauser Borsigwalde instead of JP Sauer.

AN-94 wins the Scooby Snack, looking at the book now I can see that he's correct about all the visible parts.

 

[Bassaro]

Thank you all!

So the Sauer parts would that be post S/147? Or correct for an S/147?

 

[AN-94]

The Sauer parts would most likely be post S/147 as E/37 waffenamts are first seen on later 1938 Sauer rifles when they dropped the "S/", not saying there isn't a 1938 S/147 with a stray E/37 but most likely seen on a 147 or ce marked rifle.

AN-94 wins the Scooby Snack, looking at the book now I can see that he's correct about all the visible parts.

Thanks but I had to check the book myself to make sure I wasn't spewing nonsense. Maybe the book will appreciate a good Scooby Snack...

 

[Bassaro]

You both reference “the book” and not “a book” lol. I’m guessing that means there’s an agreed upon source for Mauser rifles like the Stills books for pistols.

I guess my question is which book do I need to buy?

 

[AN-94]

I'll give you a hint, it's in the banner right above the thread title

 

[Bassaro]

Wow…talk about not paying attention…

Thank you all for the help.