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BNZ 43 Single Rune

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skeebinz

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Hey guys,

A couple months ago I picked up this BNZ 43 single rune K98k. I am looking for your opinions on it. It is a bolt m/m. I also picked up an unmarked stock for this as I originally only got the metal of this rifle (original bands).

Here are some pics, please give me your thoughts.

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The problem is there is no sure fire way to decide if your rune is legit. From my experience, it's atypical to see runes on oversize bnz 43 marked receivers, but not unheard of. These oversize bnz 43 rune guns are so few and far between it's hard to be 100% sure as the sample for comparison is small. The most common are the "small" bnz. 4 and bnz. 43 marked rifles.

Your rifle is early though, and could be correct with a rune. The myriad of fake rune Russian Capture guns polluted peoples minds on these. The numbering is all good, and it would have had unnumbered bands, so at least you can get it close to correct.
 
skeebinz said:
I'm curious what the few other things are.
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I don't like the triggerguard over stamp. To me there are slight discrepancies with some of the numbers. Having said that, I will defer to mrfarb who is far more knowledgable and skilled than I in this game.

KJ
 
I doubt it could be avk with what you have shown, it is a SDP barrel, and it is probably "ak" which would be in the right range for this rifle if authentic, which I think it probably is, so far as I can tell... a friend has one very much like yours metal wise so far as you show, he is a friend of ScottB, and Scott would have told him if it weren't authentic as they go to shows together and i am sure he has seen it... he is pretty sharp on these too, but either way it shares many characteristics with your rifle, but Mike is right, since i have been studying SDP (which unfortunately means studying SS garbage too) the rc's have polluted casual research and it takes someone with a lot of resources and determination to sort through all the fraud in this variation (through actual hands on inspection of many rifles, which is beyond most collectors ability)

Too bad the stock and bolt are m/m, with these I think the only way to be relatively confidant in a rifle is to have supporting parts compared to rifles that are believed original.
 
Hercules said:
I photograghed all the markings I could find.

Brian
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I noticed yours has significantly more maar kings (receiver, bands etc) is this consistant with bnz 44 single runes? The only SS contract bnz 44s I've seen have large font bnz and the full '44' year stamp
 
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skeebinz said:
I noticed yours has significantly more maar kings (receiver, bands etc) is this consistant with bnz 44 single runes? The only SS contract bnz 44s I've seen have large font bnz and the full '44' year stamp
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I am far from an expert on single runes and frankly all I know has been obtained from this website by reading/studying pictures of what others have posted here about these rifles. If the rifle is serial numbered on the barrel and floor plate as a general rule the bands should be numbered. If the triggerguard is numbered, but not the floor plate then the bands are not numbered. That is what I have learned so far. The stock should be numbered in any case. If the bolt matches then the gas shield and cocking piece are not numbered either I believe.

Brian
 
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Sorry probably a silly question but did not Steyr serial number their bands in 43?


mrfarb said:
The problem is there is no sure fire way to decide if your rune is legit. From my experience, it's atypical to see runes on oversize bnz 43 marked receivers, but not unheard of. These oversize bnz 43 rune guns are so few and far between it's hard to be 100% sure as the sample for comparison is small. The most common are the "small" bnz. 4 and bnz. 43 marked rifles.

Your rifle is early though, and could be correct with a rune. The myriad of fake rune Russian Capture guns polluted peoples minds on these. The numbering is all good, and it would have had unnumbered bands, so at least you can get it close to correct.
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"Normal" bnz43 rifles had numbered bands, early bnz43 SS contract and rune guns had unnumbered bands (other than a few oddballs) and later bnz43 and bnz44 SS contracts had numbered bands. It's all quite confusing, you have to be careful when you are looking at them as it's inconsistent between bnz43 and bnz4 marked guns.
 
Thanks so much :)


mrfarb said:
"Normal" bnz43 rifles had numbered bands, early bnz43 SS contract and rune guns had unnumbered bands (other than a few oddballs) and later bnz43 and bnz44 SS contracts had numbered bands. It's all quite confusing, you have to be careful when you are looking at them as it's inconsistent between bnz43 and bnz4 marked guns.
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