Bayonet Lug Differences

[gergnotwen]

UPDATE ON DIMENSIONS - Bayonet Lug Differences

UPDATE - Here's one for the Gods of Mauser... Found a front bayonet lug that is completely radiused at the front end rather than the mitered/beveled shape commonly seen. No markings on it at all, nice blued finish. Any ideas as to what this came off of? Early type maybe?

Thanks in advance...

 

[Dave Roberts]

This is an Interesting Post I never Noticed that there was differences , Good Post . Best Regards

 

[tsmgguy]

In doing a quick measurement, it seems that the radiused mount is shorter is slightly shorter than the other in the portion between the tip and the rod opening. Could someone have taken a grinding wheel to it? Are there any WaA inspection stemples on it anywhere?

 

[gergnotwen]

No markings on it anywhere, I'll get out my calipers and check dimension tonight and let you know if it is shorter. There are no grinding or file marks on it and the finish is original blued...

 

[gergnotwen]

Measured them up... Here's the results

Ok, got out the digital calipers and checked three bayonet lugs including the one with the rounded end.

Results - Rounded end lug measures 1.748" from tip to the flat next to the cleaning rod hole

Both of the typical beveled end types one from a midwar stock and one from a later Kriegsmodell measured between 1.750 to 1.751

Not great evidence that any serious grinding, metal removal or field modifications were done from my perspective. I am sure we have all seen bayo lugs banged up and peened on the edges so that a bayonet would not even fit unless you chased the burrs with a file but there is no visible tinkering showing up on the round ended one. The finish is consistent with no cold blue. I wish I could find a marking on it but no dice. If I remember it may have come off of a 1940 or 41 Erma stock that took the 10" cleaning rod but I'm not 100% sure. I'm not a heavy collector of K98's but in acquiring parts for the upcoming bcd4 LSR restoration, I ran across this oddball. Fits the wood stock end perfectly as well. Check your rifles an see if this could be some kind of minor trend in parts variation and could help identify which factory used these. I'm curious for sure.

Thanks Greg

 

[jlj]

All my 1943-45 rifles have the beveled type,also on one 1942. I find the rounded type with one bevel on the lower right corner (viewed from muzzle) on 1942 and earlier rifles including g98/40, g33/40, except my bcd 41 XXI which has the beveled type. Just a quick look, there may have been beveled types on other 42 and earlier rifles. Also not a large sample. JL

 

[gergnotwen]

I forgot to check my '41 G33/40, I'll take a look tonight. Thanks for the reply!

All my 1943-45 rifles have the beveled type,also on one 1942. I find the rounded type with one bevel on the lower right corner (viewed from muzzle) on 1942 and earlier rifles including g98/40, g33/40, except my bcd 41 XXI which has the beveled type. Just a quick look, there may have been beveled types on other 42 and earlier rifles. Also not a large sample. JL

 

[tanker1]

I checked my 4 rifles and found the following: 42/1940 & BYF 41-rounded type
BYF 43 & DOT 1944-beveled typed
Ron

 

[gergnotwen]

And yet another variation!

Ok, I checked my G.33/40 early 1941 no letter block and the bayonet lug is radiused on one side and beveled on the other!?! A half and half arrangement. Just when you thought you have seen it all, another variation shows up. See photo. Check your G.33/40's gentlemen... Interesting variations and I'm not a really a K98 collector!