Info wanted on 44 BYF 98k

Hello all, I had a buddy pick up a 1944 kar98k from auction for me and wanted to get your guys info on what you can tell me about it. I know that there’s a lot of people with a lot of knowledge here so everything would be appreciated! Looking to get the history of this gun as well as anything that might look off. Paid 600 for the gun itself, 700 after tax and shipping. Appears to be matching components but the stock is obviously missing the sling/firing pin takedown section. Any signs of forgery in the components? Did I get hosed on the price.
Thanks in advance!
 

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Metal looks good. Too bad about the stock but from my view, it may be salvageable.
Knock the filler out of the sling well and stock keeper.
Replace the missing section and get the parts. 600 to 700 for a shooter is ok.
 
All-matching metal and you have the matching front band. Nothing faked. Numbers are legit. It’s just been “sported”. If the stock can’t be saved with some donor pieces and fine stock work…. Finding a replacement correct manufacturer “E/135” Mauser Oberndorf stock shouldn’t be too hard. It won’t be matching, but would be a “correct restoration”. You would also need an unnumbered rear band, band spring and unnumbered handguard if you were to go that route.

Nice sporter matching barreled action rescues sitting in a correct manufacturer stock seem to be worth easily over $1k in today’s market. I think as is… I agree you did well. Definitely not hosed by any means and probably ahead of the game. If the stock can be fixed right, it can be worth more than that.

Welcome to the k98k world btw
 
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I think the original stock is recoverable.
As long as there is no disaster under the wood filler.
Stock cutout is in pretty good shape and hopefully the stock matches the action.
 
All-matching metal and you have the matching front band. Nothing faked. Numbers are legit. It’s just been “sported”. If the stock can’t be saved with some donor pieces and fine stock work…. Finding a replacement correct manufacturer “E/135” Mauser Oberndorf stock shouldn’t be too hard. It won’t be matching, but would be a “correct restoration”. You would also need an unnumbered rear band, band spring and unnumbered handguard if you were to go that route.

Nice sporter matching barreled action rescues sitting in a correct manufacturer stock seem to be worth easily over $1k in today’s market. I think as is… I agree you did well. Definitely not hosed by any means and probably ahead of the game. If the stock can be fixed right, it can be worth more than that.

Welcome to the k98k world btw
Thank you!! As far as the stock it seems as if it was stained I imagine that this is as done by the previous owner? It also doesn’t have the bayonet lug or cleaning rod. Was this removed by the previous owner or was this rifle produced when they started to remove these features. It’s a 44 BYF e block
 
I think the original stock is recoverable.
As long as there is no disaster under the wood filler.
Stock cutout is in pretty good shape and hopefully the stock matches the action.
Here’s some closer pics of the filled in section, do you know where I could get the stock work done to restore it to its original? Don’t want to bubba gump it more than the last owner…
 

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Thank you!! As far as the stock it seems as if it was stained I imagine that this is as done by the previous owner? It also doesn’t have the bayonet lug or cleaning rod. Was this removed by the previous owner or was this rifle produced when they started to remove these features. It’s a 44 BYF e block
The stock was “sported” and in this case was cut down shorter, front end sanded, takedown discs were removed and “filled” and the sling cutout as well.

In other words, this is not the way it left the Mauser Oberndorf factory. It’s done post war by one of its owners who made it into a hunting rifle. This was very common practice.

Two examples of a couple of my sported stocks. The sky is the limit on the style of “sporting” of the stock. You can say some look like hatchet jobs, some look like custom art work and everything in between.

Also, a traditional looking later wartime stock (not late war kriegsmodell).
 

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Jeff Walmsley does amazing work. I think you would need a donor stock first though.
What would you say my best options in this case are? I would love for it to look as it was intended when it was manufactured and also dont want to disgrace the rifle. Is there anyway to revert the current stock to its original form or would I need a completely new stock. Would like to have it as close to matching as possible but also still be a good kar98 example without killing the value. Don’t plan on selling but would like to keep it nice
 
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