Herman Goering Steyr Mannlicher

Perhaps someone does have pictures of Hermann using it? A superb example of top tier craftsmanship.
 
gunnertwo said:
Beautiful rifle. I would want some proof / provenance besides the crest. The listing shows none. With as much literature showing Goering and his extensive hunting I would think some images could be found.

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This stützen is designed for mountain hunting (chamois engraved on the floorplate). I would be curious to see any picture of him hunting chamois. He introduced chamois in the Black Forest in 1938, if I’m not mistaken.
 
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Guillaume d'Orange said:
This stützen is designed for mountain hunting (chamois engraved on the floorplate).
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It is Stutzen, not Stützen. Stütze is the German word for support/rest/linchpin, not connected with guns ;) .

They should had removed the action from the stock. Under the wood should be the proof which would indicate in which year it was made.

This rifle is a bit of a head scratcher to me. The super thick black finish makes me think the rifle is hot dip blued, what I would not expect from a high end factory rifle. Also the front scope foot (Wiener Schnäppermontage btw) is sitting on what appears to be an added ring to the barrel shank. The scope serial 38175 btw is pretty early. Does anyone have any idea as to what the thing in the stock foreend is for? Also the Springbacke (that is the German word for the "jumping cheekpad") setting appears to be missing something at the bottom; why for that hole at the rear bottom? It doesn't make sense like that. I would expect something like a locking mechanism there. Finally, the rear scope ring is sitting in a part that is engraved. If it was factory fitted with scope and engraved then that area would had been left spare and NOT engraved under the scope foot, but very nicely worked around it.
 
Absolut said:
It is Stutzen, not Stützen. Stütze is the German word for support/rest/linchpin, not connected with guns ;) .

They should had removed the action from the stock. Under the wood should be the proof which would indicate in which year it was made.

This rifle is a bit of a head scratcher to me. The super thick black finish makes me think the rifle is hot dip blued, what I would not expect from a high end factory rifle. Also the front scope foot (Wiener Schnäppermontage btw) is sitting on what appears to be an added ring to the barrel shank. The scope serial 38175 btw is pretty early. Does anyone have any idea as to what the thing in the stock foreend is for? Also the Springbacke (that is the German word for the "jumping cheekpad") setting appears to be missing something at the bottom; why for that hole at the rear bottom? It doesn't make sense like that. I would expect something like a locking mechanism there. Finally, the rear scope ring is sitting in a part that is engraved. If it was factory fitted with scope and engraved then that area would had been left spare and NOT engraved under the scope foot, but very nicely worked around it.
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Starting to sound like someone may have gotten a 59K turd. Man I wish I had big tech or oil money 😩😞🙃 oh well, box factory waste water section of the plant work life for me 😂🤘
 
Back in the 60s and 70s everyone said their uncle brought Goering's rifle back from the war.
Uncles do tell tall tales for fun and fraudsters tell tall tails because they make money from fraud.
 
The band added to the barrel for the scope base was not uncommon. It was found early on that dovetailing the reciever weakened it to the point it was unsafe. Similarly, the germans adopted a saddle that was the dovetailed part on their double claw receivers. Dovetailed receivers are mostly found prewar (WW1) 1903 carbines.
 
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biggymu said:
The band added to the barrel for the scope base was not uncommon.
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Did not say it was uncommon to have base on the barrel, but that it appearst o have an additional base sitting on top of the barrel shank. This isn't the standard for M-S rifles.
 
Absolut said:
It is Stutzen, not Stützen. Stütze is the German word for support/rest/linchpin, not connected with guns ;) .

They should had removed the action from the stock. Under the wood should be the proof which would indicate in which year it was made.

This rifle is a bit of a head scratcher to me. The super thick black finish makes me think the rifle is hot dip blued, what I would not expect from a high end factory rifle. Also the front scope foot (Wiener Schnäppermontage btw) is sitting on what appears to be an added ring to the barrel shank. The scope serial 38175 btw is pretty early. Does anyone have any idea as to what the thing in the stock foreend is for? Also the Springbacke (that is the German word for the "jumping cheekpad") setting appears to be missing something at the bottom; why for that hole at the rear bottom? It doesn't make sense like that. I would expect something like a locking mechanism there. Finally, the rear scope ring is sitting in a part that is engraved. If it was factory fitted with scope and engraved then that area would had been left spare and NOT engraved under the scope foot, but very nicely worked around it.
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The thing in the stock forend is a pair of fold out spikes. They were quite common on guns made for Goering by Ludwig Schiwy of Berlin. Actually, the Springbacke also looks like Schiwy's work.

The Schiwy company still makes these features on their guns.
 
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