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Gewehr 98 DWM 1917 1062l

PrayingMantis

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Posting this for @Civilwarnut1863 who recently snagged it at auction. Nice example of a DWM 1917, but the bolt is most intriguing. While the striker assembly and collar are original, I suspect the bolt itself is an armorers replacement. I saw this because the number, though matching, is in a different font and lacks a suffix. The bolt acceptance matches that of the ubiquitous armorers followers. There is also an A above the serial on the bolt, which could mean the bolt body was rejected at one point, was subcontracted, or, as I suspect, worked on by an armorer. Let me know what you all think.
 

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Barrel and sights.
 

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Magazine assembly, bands, and rod.
 

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Stock and handguard.
 

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Thanks for posting this Cyrus! Looking forward to learning more about it and hearing others opinions. Definitely intriguing. This gewher is as honest and complete as I’m going to get for a while me thinks! Hard to beat. Thanks to those who helped me bite the bullet. Not really a hard choice to make
 
It’s not been varnished, it has that factory heavy coating the Germans used on beech. Only detraction is a small crack behind the receiver common to beech stocks, and two small holes from tacks that likely held a label at some point. Otherwise it’s untouched, it’s quite a nice one.
Hmm interesting, I wasn't aware that was a thing from the Germans, neato!
 
That's a wonderful and interesting DWM Gewehr 98, congrats on lucking out on such a nice one! Interesting that the bolt might be an armorer's bolt considering there's no other signs of rework that I can tell on this one. Also, I didn't realize you could get such a deep reddish-brown with beech wood, I love the stock on this one!
 
That's a wonderful and interesting DWM Gewehr 98, congrats on lucking out on such a nice one! Interesting that the bolt might be an armorer's bolt considering there's no other signs of rework that I can tell on this one. Also, I didn't realize you could get such a deep reddish-brown with beech wood, I love the stock on this one!
Thanks for that. Still a rookie with the finer details, so this may be a dull comment/ question: but being an armorer rework… I would have presumed markings on the butt plate would say this?
That’s why I’m leaning towards the fact it was once rejected and made for DWM by a subcontractor?
 
Hmm interesting, I wasn't aware that was a thing from the Germans, neato!
If you want to read more on the various stock finishes used, here is an excellent post Sam/mauser1908 did a couple years ago.

Thanks for that. Still a rookie with the finer details, so this may be a dull comment/ question: but being an armorer rework… I would have presumed markings on the butt plate would say this?
That’s why I’m leaning towards the fact it was once rejected and made for DWM by a subcontractor?
Kallan-- first, I'm glad you listened to the peer pressure we were applying-- It's an excellent wartime DWM.

Secondly, the buttplate and/or stock stamps with a numbered depot are not universal- for one example; the Bavarians typically didn't stamp the buttplates. Secondly, there are different levels of rework- a divisional, regimental or company-level field armorer wouldn't follow this convention either. Here's a lower level rework with no indicators as to where it was completed:

While the striker assembly and collar are original, I suspect the bolt itself is an armorers replacement. I saw this because the number, though matching, is in a different font and lacks a suffix. The bolt acceptance matches that of the ubiquitous armorers followers. There is also an A above the serial on the bolt, which could mean the bolt body was rejected at one point, was subcontracted, or, as I suspect, worked on by an armorer. Let me know what you all think.
It's definitely an unusual bolt-- I think any of those theories could be correct, though I lean to a replacement using either an armorer spare or rejected part--as we were discussing, that large block "A" shows up on stocks, rear sights and other parts for Hannover builds.
 
If you want to read more on the various stock finishes used, here is an excellent post Sam/mauser1908 did a couple years ago.


Kallan-- first, I'm glad you listened to the peer pressure we were applying-- It's an excellent wartime DWM.

Secondly, the buttplate and/or stock stamps with a numbered depot are not universal- for one example; the Bavarians typically didn't stamp the buttplates. Secondly, there are different levels of rework- a divisional, regimental or company-level field armorer wouldn't follow this convention either. Here's a lower level rework with no indicators as to where it was completed:


It's definitely an unusual bolt-- I think any of those theories could be correct, though I lean to a replacement using either an armorer spare or rejected part--as we were discussing, that large block "A" shows up on stocks, rear sights and other parts for Hannover builds.
Makes complete sense. Incredible article as well Sam.
 
What an awesome rifle this turned out to be. The peer pressure was well justified lol. I know the seller always has trash photos and poor descriptions. The Easter egg about the bolt is especially fascinating. Definitely makes this acquisition a great pickup. Thanks Cyrus for helping to share Kallan's photos. The reference needed to have this one!!
 
What an awesome rifle this turned out to be. The peer pressure was well justified lol. I know the seller always has trash photos and poor descriptions. The Easter egg about the bolt is especially fascinating. Definitely makes this acquisition a great pickup. Thanks Cyrus for helping to share Kallan's photos. The reference needed to have this one!!
Thanks for that!
I’m the least tech savvy 23 year old you’ll ever meet. All of my passion and knowledge is based on books and not so much the enternet so not talented to navigate forums like this. Until recently that is (another peer pressure from the same guys!) going forward I’d like to post more. Now that I’m getting the hang of it. But figured Cyrus has the connections and people that can really contribute to the thread and can really help me learn more. I also didn’t know where to begin on taking photographs. My next goal is to get to know the people more on these forums and have good quality conversations going forward. So here’s to a great educational 2025 🍻
 

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