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1874 FV Dreyse/Soemmerda Gewehr 71 #8070 (née #7481)

chrisftk

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Hi all,

This rifle came to me back in the summer after an unsolicited email on another forum offering it to me.

FV Dreyse (Located in Soemmerda) was the last unique Gew71 maker I needed (counting the Consortium as one), so this was a neat acquisition. FV Dreyse was, as the name suggests, the remnant of the company founded by Nickolas von Dreyse. By this point, the son, Franz was running the company and their fortunes had declined considerably with the obsolescence of the needle rifle, despite a valiant attempt to modernize the system outlined here:

Acknowledging that the needle fire system was well and truly dead, Dreyse was an early and short-lived contractor for 71s; they also later produced M79 and M83 revolvers for military contracts.

The rifle itself has been rebuilt, probably a few times. The barrelled receiver was originally SN 7481, but was force-matched to the bolt 8070 (overstamped). The rest of the rifle is matching to the former 7481 serial. The stock is a Mauser one; it likely was a prior replacement (though it matches internally). Not sure of the vintage of the reworking, but the brass triggerguard is still there, so maybe pre-war. There are no identifying marks to any particular depot.

The buttplate has faint remnants of a scrubbed unit mark, but it's illegible.

In any case, here are the photos:

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It’s always nice to complete a series!
I notice the receiver has the C/RC revisor stamp as found on later Gew98’s. I wonder how far back that convention goes. Very cool maker.
 
Added to the study, with a direct link here... I still wonder if Dreyse rolled serialing over each year or whether serialed consecutively. They are a tough maker to pontificate over, damn rare in anycase...

Great pick-up!
 
Doesn't answer the question really but thought it would help illustrate the subject, - but clearly C/RC is as old as United Germany, some pre-unification collector may be able to say whether it has Prussian origins?
 
It’s always nice to complete a series!
I notice the receiver has the C/RC revisor stamp as found on later Gew98’s. I wonder how far back that convention goes. Very cool maker.
Doesn't answer the question really but thought it would help illustrate the subject, - but clearly C/RC is as old as United Germany, some pre-unification collector may be able to say whether it has Prussian origins?
Thanks Rick, to Paul's point; the c/RC was certainly is old as German unification. I would imagine it had its roots in some sort of Prussian inspection protocol, but that's just speculation. To my reckoning, I have not seen it appear on any Dreyse or musket, But it's quite possible it may. Until one shows up, we just won't know.
Added to the study, with a direct link here... I still wonder if Dreyse rolled serialing over each year or whether serialed consecutively. They are a tough maker to pontificate over, damn rare in anycase...

Great pick-up!
Thanks Paul, I figured you would approve. It makes a neat bookend with my Soemmerda M41 Dreyse. Sort of the beginning and the end of a storied company.
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Congrats on picking up a lovely Dreyse IG71, nothing better than finding the last piece needed to round out a collection! Excellent pictures as always, really nice bluing still left on this one.
 

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