Two G/K.43 mounts up for sale

I tend to think these are very high end recently made fake mounts (and as a result to this I think it is OK to post the links to the auctions), but would appreciate the input of others two...

First, a 359 stamped mount with rifle number 3576: https://www.egun.de/market/item.php?id=19781630
From looking at it close it appears to me as if the "fest" is milled and not stamped since it appears to have square deepenings, not V shaped bottom. Also the rust and dirt makes it look highly artificially aged. Also the surface looks to breaking off, what makes me think this a Zinc alloy casting, not steel, as the originals were. The font of the rifle number also looks somewhat odd

Second, a 214 stamped mount with the rifle number 7218: https://www.egun.de/market/item.php?id=19781609
This one does look better than the first mount. The scope band screws and pins do look to be of correct milling marks and screw head could be correct (badly pictured though). The rifle number does look as it should be. What I though really don't like is the surface. It looks to be too perfect for what I know from WWII production.

Appreciate other opinions. So far got 50:50 direct feedback from friends I had asked. Therefore I hope this to be a very good crowd knowledge mystery to be solved.

PS: if it turns out that I would be right and these are fakes, then they are somewhat scary because they are about the best ones I've seen so far.

It does seem that both mounts have been carefully photographed to avoid showing this dimple

Looking at them on my computer versus my phone is a little more telling. The 214 mount is definitely more convincing. I agree that if these are fake then we may have lost the battle.

@Joseph Burke I'd highly value your opinion and feedback to this, while your thumbs up to the comment above is telling on what you think I really hope that someone such as you could also drop a line or two on your thoughts!

Both are clearly fakes that have been around for quite some time...and aged to look older. The 214 is a bit more convincing, but not much. Look at the smooth casting finish (way to consistent), lever style/construction and the stampings/engravings...all are red flags to look for. Compare these next to an original and those issues stand out.

There were some near perfect examples that showed up in the early 90s, that fooled many, unfortunately, I do not have any pics of them..that I could find yet.

Absolut said:

@Joseph Burke I'd highly value your opinion and feedback to this, while your thumbs up to the comment above is telling on what you think I really hope that someone such as you could also drop a line or two on your thoughts!

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They are copies. This, I assume, same seller lists on eBay in Europe quite often and the images always look the same. Brian K has noted the telltale signs and when I'm in doubt I ask Brian K.
One of that seller's (assumed) eBay auctions ended today. Take a look: Note the acceptance stamp in that first image.