Script ce 43 w/ LSR receiver flat

This has been a real oddball treasure of mine for over 10 years. It was assembled as a 98k (I assume by Sauer) using a leftover receiver originally intended for LSR use. Many of the parts appear to be spares or armorers parts and pre-date the receiver. Many have fraktur marks. Receiver is serialed 5418 e with 280 on right. The eagle/swastika on top does not have the e/37 of most Sauers; it has no code at all except for a small numeral 1 just above and touching the left wing.

All metal parts match (except bolt body). The rifle was re-barreled as evidenced by the different size numbers and font. The barrel is a Geco marked 117 40 Ru, followed by 3 e/26's. The stock is a laminate flat b.p. with a large 31mm stock disc. Butt end is marked Br. 2-15-41. Notable is there are no marks of any kind on right side. The stock and handguard are serial numbered in both the internal channel and on the "keel". There is a P right behind the grip as well as a capital "W" below the serial. Below that is a WaA/swastika 214, Bayonet lug also has a tiny WaA 214. There is a number 110 stamped on the front receiver ring and on the top of the buttplate, probably to keep track during the rebarrel. Somewhat anal retentive, but I would have been too if doing repairs for the Reich. No depot rework marks.

The only real downer is that some unknown idiot bent down the original bolt handle, polished beyond recognition, and even cut a notch in the stock. I replaced the bolt with an FN armorer's spare, but have yet to tackle the stock repair. Feel free to ask additional info or photos. I would sincerely appreciate any add'l comment.

Script ce 43 w/ LSR rcvr flat

I suppose some of you would like to see photos.

IMO it was originally completed by Sauer then reworked sometime later. The receiver serial number and fireproof both appear to be Sauer applied, and the missing 37 on top is probably just a poor stamp application. Armorers' stocks usually lacked any external markings except for WaA acceptance and occasionally manufacture codes (S/42, byf, etc.) on the keel. Some of the very early ones have an E/H I think.

Interesting that the barrel lacks a fireproof...

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very rare reciever.. DR will chime in im sure.. This is the first ive seen. I had a long conversation with Dave about sauer lsr's . Id like to see the proofs if any on the right side of the receiver. It should have a single e/359 as script CE receivers usually have that proof.. This is the missing link reciever. Prooving saure developed and made the fist lsr's before the tooling was sent astra work for semi-mass production of a universal sniper receiver. I think dave said he's never seen one finished ?? Or maybe he had. He will have to chime in before I get off course. Very nice find..

Script ce 43 w/ LSR rcvr flat

Mauser99 - There is a but a single e/280 on the right receiver ring, not the e/359 you surmised. I'll soon take a better photo for viewing. Thx much for kind remarks.

Script ce 43 w/ LSR rcvr flat

Here are add'l photos . Two photos from slightly different angles to show the Eagle on top with no 37 evident. Blue on this rifle is thin, but the natural light almost makes the finish disappear. The bolt parts are all matching with no nazi WaA's. Fraktur marks are evident on the f.p. and cocking piece. The f.p. is neatly scrubbed and the new # applied. The safety lever is a Simson (WaA 6) armorer's part.

Sauer assembled BCD 4 K 98s

Alkali said:

Here are add'l photos . Two photos from slightly different angles to show the Eagle on top with no 37 evident. Blue on this rifle is thin, but the natural light almost makes the finish disappear. The bolt parts are all matching with no nazi WaA's. Fraktur marks are evident on the f.p. and cocking piece. The f.p. is neatly scrubbed and the new # applied. The safety lever is a Simson (WaA 6) armorer's part.

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Hi new to site may be in the wrong place so bear with me I have two BCD 4 CE barreled k 98s one is 3 digit s/n 23x all matching other is all matching s/n94xxx claw mount sniper with single rune lower MSW scope tiger strip hard wood stock (matching with hand guard) I post some photos soon any info?? on BCD snipers assembled at Sauer.

rustygunz1 said:

Hi new to site may be in the wrong place so bear with me I have two BCD 4 CE barreled k 98s one is 3 digit s/n 23x all matching other is all matching s/n94xxx claw mount sniper with single rune lower MSW scope tiger strip hard wood stock (matching with hand guard) I post some photos soon any info?? on BCD snipers assembled at Sauer.

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rustygun - You have indeed come to the right place. It just won't be me that can provide the information you need. I'd recommend that you post photos of your rifles as soon as possible. You might go ahead and start your own thread when you do. I believe that the rifles will get the attention they deserve from the more qualified. Regards.

Alkali said:

Here are add'l photos . Two photos from slightly different angles to show the Eagle on top with no 37 evident.

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I checked my Sauer assembled bcd4 receiver and the receiver top acceptance looks the same as yours. The 37 is missing.

sauerr assembled BCD for snipers and BCD for 3 digit serial number

RyanE said:

I checked my Sauer assembled bcd4 receiver and the receiver top acceptance looks the same as yours. The 37 is missing.

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I'had these rifles for years 1 has capture papers I will disassemble and photograph this weeked

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Script ce 43 w/ LSR rcvr flat - a few more pix.

Amberg -
Thx for your post with photos. A lot of small differences noted. Interesting, but probably not of real consequence. Your top eagle has the "37". Your sight was a later mfr (no sight graduations on reverse). Your sight base has two E/359's; mine has nothing but a "1" on the bottom.

The stock on mine received the quicky light brown stain coat after assembly. The photos show the protected area under the bands. On both, the front speed milled band and the middle sling band are of identical mfr.
How is your stock marked? I still have no clue on the capital "W" on the keel of my stock.

need to have another look, but I think it is only marked e/H. No number no nothing.

Your rifle is the later of the two. It probably got an earlier rear sight with the new barrel.

Has anyone seen a ce with the flat receiver/scope mount holes/and slotted stock?

I bought this gun with the scope and mount on it but no pins. I am told it is fake but I see a picture of this type of 3 hole receiver on page 255 of Peter Senich's book. The patina is all consistent. Please ignore the fresh gouge from me removing the scope mount. All the birds have been pinged but I do still see a WaA280 on the right side. Comments?

Jon

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Here are some more pictures.

Jon

You should start your own thread you will get more results. No expert but looks bad. No alignment holes for one so it was never completed as a sniper. Others will chime in that know more.

kretzj said:

Here are some more pictures.

Jon

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Receiver flat looks freshly dressed when compared to the forward receiver area. Center hole in pic #2 looks to show an extended burr that would effect the mating of the lower mount. Drilling doesn't look clean like I've seen on some rifles.

I agree about the burr. I wonder if it is one of the unfinished guns and someone drilled and tapped the 3 screw holes. I have seen numerous references to ce 43 f block guns that were unfinished.

Jon

Jon, I think you are finally getting close. No way would the Germans make a sniper that they could not see a serial number. Read my first post on gunboards. Additionally, why would they not use pins plus the three screws on an improved design? The SSR later versions added the pins since the original three drilled screws were found inadequate. They did learn from their prior attempts. The LSR was to be an improved design, not repeat of prior problems. You likely have a thick walled receiver that was never a sniper. In fact, I am betting it was never a sniper but this is just a few of the reasons. Accept it and move on. We all make mistakes.