Useful excerpts about soldiers disassembling K98k's, Waffenmeisters & field reworks
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Hercules
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Large Armorers Tool Kit
Hello. Here are a few photos of a Large Armorer Tool Kit for Machine Guns and Hand Weapons. Do you know of a publication that lists all the contents in the box? Thanks for your interest.
Hello. Here are a few photos of a Large Armorer Tool Kit for Machine Guns and Hand Weapons. Do you know of a publication that lists all the contents in the box? Thanks for your interest.
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Warrior1354
ax - hole
Hell of some nice kits guys. Really nice. And Stephan you surprise me everyday when I get home from work on your information postings. Wow! Feel like you learn something new everyday from it. Like I have said before thank you for taking the time too do this.
Bavarian Joe
Member
Amazing how something like that survived without getting looted of the contents.
Stephan98k
aka 8x57IS
Craig, thank you very much for the pictures of the "Kleiner Waffenwerkzeugsatz" (small weapon tool kit) and the "Vorratskasten für Handwaffen" (spare box for hand weapons). It's great the spare box survived for such a long time untouched in the attic of the Bavarian house.
Many people think the small weapon tool kit was used just for MG 34 or MG 42, because the tools are stored in an MG ammunition box, but it was used for other weapons too. Here you can see it in use for a field repair of a machine pistol:
The double-wrench as example was used to unscrew and screw the Überwurfmutter (collar nut) of the MP 38/MP 40. and the Feuerdämpfer (flash hider) of the MG34.
@Jordan
You are very welcome, I'm glad you enjoy this thread.
Many people think the small weapon tool kit was used just for MG 34 or MG 42, because the tools are stored in an MG ammunition box, but it was used for other weapons too. Here you can see it in use for a field repair of a machine pistol:
The double-wrench as example was used to unscrew and screw the Überwurfmutter (collar nut) of the MP 38/MP 40. and the Feuerdämpfer (flash hider) of the MG34.
@Jordan
You are very welcome, I'm glad you enjoy this thread.
Stephan98k
aka 8x57IS
You are very welcome Hercules and thank you very much for your contribution.
At present I only have a part of the table of contents to the "large armorer tool kit for machine guns and hand weapons". The translation of the parts is quite difficult and it take some time, in the next days I will do it.
Stephan98k
aka 8x57IS
Geräteklassen
Thank you Mike, in my opinion it's a interesting document and useful. I will use the chance to introduce another armorer tool (position 3 in your contract from the SS) and to name the different Geräteklassen (device classes).
Army Decree-Sheet published by the Army High Command - Berlin, November 15, 1939
Geräteklassen (device classes)
In our example the armorer tool "Prüf- und Richtgerät zum Mantel M.G. 34" has the letter "J" in front of the requisition number, it means it's "Infanteriegerät" (Infantry equipment). The Hahn & Kolb box has the letter "H" behind the year 1939, it stands for "Allgemeines Heeresgerät" (general army equipment).
Thank you Mike, in my opinion it's a interesting document and useful. I will use the chance to introduce another armorer tool (position 3 in your contract from the SS) and to name the different Geräteklassen (device classes).
Army Decree-Sheet published by the Army High Command - Berlin, November 15, 1939
Geräteklassen (device classes)
In our example the armorer tool "Prüf- und Richtgerät zum Mantel M.G. 34" has the letter "J" in front of the requisition number, it means it's "Infanteriegerät" (Infantry equipment). The Hahn & Kolb box has the letter "H" behind the year 1939, it stands for "Allgemeines Heeresgerät" (general army equipment).
Stephan98k
aka 8x57IS
Geräteklassen - Translation
Geräteklassen (device classes) - Translation
J = Infanteriegerät - Infantry equipment
A = Artilleriegerät - Artillery equipment
Hm = Heeresmeßgerät - Army measuring instruments equipment
P = Pinoniergerät - Pioneer equipment
E = Eisenbahnpioniergerät - Railway pioneer troops equipment
K = Kraftfahrgerät und Kfz.-Betriebsstoffe - Motor vehicle equipment and motor vehicle operating materials
N = Nachrichtengerät - Communication equipment
H = Allgemeines Heeresgerät - General army equipment
Vw = Verwaltungstruppengerät - Administrative troops equipment
Ch = Nebel- und Gasschutzgerät - Mist and gas protection equipment
V = Veterinärgerät - Veterinary equipment
S = Sanitätsgerät - Medical equipment
R = Handelsübliches Werlzeug - Commercially available tools
U = Handelsübliches Gerät - Commercially available equipment
Q = Handelsübliche Verbrauchsmittel - Commercially available consumables
W = Handelsübliche Werkstoffe - Commercially available materials
Z = Handelsübliche Betriebsstoffe - Commercially available operating materials
Geräteklassen (device classes) - Translation
J = Infanteriegerät - Infantry equipment
A = Artilleriegerät - Artillery equipment
Hm = Heeresmeßgerät - Army measuring instruments equipment
P = Pinoniergerät - Pioneer equipment
E = Eisenbahnpioniergerät - Railway pioneer troops equipment
K = Kraftfahrgerät und Kfz.-Betriebsstoffe - Motor vehicle equipment and motor vehicle operating materials
N = Nachrichtengerät - Communication equipment
H = Allgemeines Heeresgerät - General army equipment
Vw = Verwaltungstruppengerät - Administrative troops equipment
Ch = Nebel- und Gasschutzgerät - Mist and gas protection equipment
V = Veterinärgerät - Veterinary equipment
S = Sanitätsgerät - Medical equipment
R = Handelsübliches Werlzeug - Commercially available tools
U = Handelsübliches Gerät - Commercially available equipment
Q = Handelsübliche Verbrauchsmittel - Commercially available consumables
W = Handelsübliche Werkstoffe - Commercially available materials
Z = Handelsübliche Betriebsstoffe - Commercially available operating materials
Stephan98k
aka 8x57IS
Large Armorer Tool Kit for Machine Guns and Hand Weapons - Table of contents
Here is the table of contents of the "Großer Waffenmeisterwerkzeugkasten für MG und Handwaffen" (Large Armorer Tool Kit for Machine Guns and Hand Weapons), at least an excerpt of it. Unfortunately I don't have all the pages.
Front page of the booklet
Page 4 of the booklet
Page 5 of the booklet
Example
Here is the table of contents of the "Großer Waffenmeisterwerkzeugkasten für MG und Handwaffen" (Large Armorer Tool Kit for Machine Guns and Hand Weapons), at least an excerpt of it. Unfortunately I don't have all the pages.
Front page of the booklet
Page 4 of the booklet
Page 5 of the booklet
Example
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Hercules
Senior Member
Thank you Stephan.
Stephan98k
aka 8x57IS
You are very welcome! If I get more pages, I will continue with the work.
Stephan98k
aka 8x57IS
Large Armorer Tool Kit for M.G. and Hand Weapons - Allocation
Here is another order, it's about the allocation of "M.G.-Handwagen" (M.G.-handcart) and "Großer Waffenmeisterwerkzeugkasten für M.G. und Handwaffen" (Large Armorer Tool Kit for M.G. and Hand Weapons).
General Army Communications published by the Army High Command - Berlin, June 7, 1935
* Abbreviation:
Rgt at Div. until June 15, 1935 = Regiment at Division until June 15, 1935
Div. at W.K. until June 22, 1935 = Division at Wehrkreis until June 22, 1935
W.K. at H.Fzm. until July 1, 1935 = Wehrkreis at Heeres Feldzeugmeisterei until July 1, 1935
Here is another order, it's about the allocation of "M.G.-Handwagen" (M.G.-handcart) and "Großer Waffenmeisterwerkzeugkasten für M.G. und Handwaffen" (Large Armorer Tool Kit for M.G. and Hand Weapons).
General Army Communications published by the Army High Command - Berlin, June 7, 1935
* Abbreviation:
Rgt at Div. until June 15, 1935 = Regiment at Division until June 15, 1935
Div. at W.K. until June 22, 1935 = Division at Wehrkreis until June 22, 1935
W.K. at H.Fzm. until July 1, 1935 = Wehrkreis at Heeres Feldzeugmeisterei until July 1, 1935
Stephan98k
aka 8x57IS
Stamping the Cleaning RG34
Here is another interesting order, it's about stamping the Cleaning Kit 34 with the serial number of the weapon. In addition, I have again attached the table of contents of the "Large Armorer Tool Kit for Machine Guns and Hand Weapons", please pay attention to the yellow marked area.
Army Decree-Sheet published by the Army High Command - Berlin, July 15, 1939
Many thanks to Wolfgang for the sample photos!
PS: I'm sorry, I've removed the size of the stamp to make it more difficult for humpers.
Here is another interesting order, it's about stamping the Cleaning Kit 34 with the serial number of the weapon. In addition, I have again attached the table of contents of the "Large Armorer Tool Kit for Machine Guns and Hand Weapons", please pay attention to the yellow marked area.
Army Decree-Sheet published by the Army High Command - Berlin, July 15, 1939
Many thanks to Wolfgang for the sample photos!
PS: I'm sorry, I've removed the size of the stamp to make it more difficult for humpers.
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Stephan98k
aka 8x57IS
Alteration / changes of weapons and equipment
Here is an interesting excerpt from a document.
Commander for the rear army area - St. Qu., March 6, 1944
Here is an interesting excerpt from a document.
Commander for the rear army area - St. Qu., March 6, 1944
Winchester Cowboy
Senior Member
Excellent information and post.
tsmgguy
Senior Member
And, more difficult for those doing research or seeking to confirm authenticity. "It isn't the information, it's how it's used."
Stephan98k
aka 8x57IS
That's right. The research is very time consuming and the translations take a lot extra time, I do it to share these informations with you. I would't make this job if it wouldn't be important to me. You can imagine the decision to hide informations was not easy for me, it hurts a bit. But I think the size of the stamp is a small detail and you can get over the loss of this information. Not only reputable collectors can read here, unfortunately also scum who fake the weapons and I don't want to support these criminals.
Stephan98k
aka 8x57IS
Broken stocks of carbines and rifles - Armee-Geräte-Park
Here is another interesting excerpt from a document. The abbreviation "A.G.P. 665" means "Armee-Geräte-Park 665".
Generalkommando XX.A.K. Qu. - K.H.Qu., March 14, 1944
Here is another interesting excerpt from a document. The abbreviation "A.G.P. 665" means "Armee-Geräte-Park 665".
Generalkommando XX.A.K. Qu. - K.H.Qu., March 14, 1944
